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It was clear to me that to reach Lishma state we have to change the desire to receive for ourselves, either spiritually or corporeally, in order to bestow. It seems that Lishma state will probably be attained at an old age, because it’s much harder for a young, middle-aged person to renounce the corporeal desire to receive for oneself than an old person who already experienced “almost everything” in the physical world. Isn’t that right?
Tiago,
You are right that it takes time, but not exactly as you said.
We are not looking to renounce our corporeal desires.
Kabbalah means to receive. We want to understand, why do I always feel bad and empty?!
We receive money, sex, family, honor, but we always return to emptiness.
This wisdom guides us to live in this world as we must and to build a new perception, a new whole, eternal reality.
You are correct that our body will not agree to this work. That is true and that remains. The body protests and it is correct.
The body says, I was created in order to enjoy, so I must enjoy.
And the body is correct.
So we have been given the awakening of our point in the heart.
And we know from nature that the small one gets pleasure from serving the big one. Like we would be happy to carry the bag of a famous person.
So, when the Creator becomes great in our eyes, it is a great pleasure to do everything for Him.
So He bestows to the vessel and the vessel bestows to Him and the vessel is in eternal fulfillment and adhesion.Seth@KabU
our goal is ultimately adhesion with the Creator. does this mean that adjusting the masach is getting less of the desire for reception of the pleasure for ourselves and making it into bestowal? bestowal to the Creator? how about bestowal to our friends ? i still receive pleasure when i do this as i feel good.
kabbalistic praying is asking for the Creator to change our perception. For example someone you love dies, does this mean that everything is still goodness from above? how can we change our perspective on death? that it is actually rebirth? or its because of cause and effect on the part of the person who died?
beth,
When someone close to us passes, it is very emotional.
If we were 500 years old, we would still feel emotions, but we would have seen that everyone we knows that is born also dies and we would understand this progression of time.
As we study the wisdom of kabbalah we start to hear about a different reality that exists above time and space.
There, life is eternal.
When that high root extends down to its corporeal branch in this world, here it turns through incarnations as it ripens.
In spirituality, there is singularity. In the material world, that unity is stretched out over a timeline.
You can say that spirituality is round, everything is there all at once. Corporeality is like a line, one thing after the next.
Seth@KabU
regarding “unfortunate” events, natural disasters, epidemics etc how then can we stop this? does this mean that praying for the Creator to hep stop what is happening will not help? meaning it is man who needs to change what he is doing in order to alter the course of nature?
beth,
Let’s look at the question from a different angle.
Imagine that every time I eat a certain food, my body breaks out in hives.
Now imagine that a doctor gives me a cream to make the hives go down.
So my body is still reacting to the food, but I’m suppressing it’s reaction.
It’s not a perfect example, but we need to see that the world we see is a material profection of the inner state of humanity.
We are in the early stages of our study so it is not clear how do deal with the world outside of me if the cause of everythign I see outside of me is inside of me. So we learn that we live in this world as usual, we buy insurance, stay healthy, all the conducts of this world.
And also we are not here studying about the system of nature, by that we bring ourselves into harmony with system and then the system we see outside of us, inanimate, vegetative and animate degrees also come into harmony with us as we ascend.
Seth@KabU
I think I understand the distinctions between Kabbalah and religion as explained in the video.
I have one possibly unrelated question, can we understand Torah as a Kabbalistic text?
Thanks
Felix
Felix,
The Torah is 100% a kabbalistic text.
Can we understand it as a kabbalistic text? That takes time.
For our generation, we do have a way to access that book through the Sulam commentary on the ladder and all of the writings that we received from Baal HaSulam and Rabash, however it is very very far from us and is not useful and efficient for our goal now which is to correct our nature to be in order to bestow. When we have just a small amount of spiritual attainment, we begin to understand what is written in those books.
I can tell you about London for hours, but if you walk down the street for a minute, you will know the sounds, the smells, the feeling in the air.
Seth@KabU
Also found this lesson to be amazing. Still not sure we must always pray, and always in connection with the creator. Is this a feeling? For instance I am feeling that I bestow rather than trying to receive.
Etienne,
There are many feelings that become more powerful and more intense.
Feeling connected and feeling disconnected. Many entries and exits.
We work and make efforts to always be connected to the Creator through all of the states.
It means to tie everything that is happening to one force and it is all guiding us to the good.
Seth@KabU
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