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Hello Gianni,
Are all the members of a Ten on the same spiritual level/the same step of the ladder? So they work with the same common challenges? Or are they very different, so they can complement each other?
Greetings
Ralitza
I want to know,how or in which way does attaining spirituality in the wisdom of kabbalah affect our daily lives in our corporeal world?
For example our livelihood,corporeal knowledge,social life etc…
Spiritual attainment includes everything and everything. However, there’s no point in discussing that because with an x-ray that sees much deeper into the person than he even knows himself, a person is measured in their intentions, and the intention needs to be to attain the Creator’s qualities. Of course, this won’t be one’s sole goal because we’re egoists, but the Reforming Light in the study of Kabbalah works on the person and gradually shapes a more and more correct intention. But this is why a person needs to address all things corporeal in the normal ways, and what, if anything, needs to change according to a person’s spiritual advancement, will change.
In the last video with Rav Laitman, Asaf compared the force of gravity to the Upper Force and asked why it is that this Upper force seems to have a personality unlike gravity which just acts. Rav Laitman talked about having to be on a higher level to understand man, but he didn’t directly answer why Kabbalists think this force has a personality. Is it because that is how they perceive it? So everything we understand can only be from our own human perspective, like quantum physics shows?
Hi Esther,
Exactly. We perceive according to how we are. If we perceive a change on the outside, it’s because we changed somehow on the inside. The fact that we see no correlation – of course this is because the linkage is concealed. It is as one Kabbalist wrote, “Every day I have a new Creator.” It’s because as you change, it’s as though The Creator changes. But it is written, “I the Lord do not change.” All the changes we perceive in the Upper Light, all the names of the Creator, where names are the ways of attaining Him, are only the changes in our Kli. “There is no light without a Kli,” it is written. So NO Light. And we’re missing the Kli entirely for now. As we develop this Kli, so does the perception of the Upper Force, and all the spiritual degrees are the development of the Kli and the corresponding revelations of the Upper Force within it.
While watching these videos, I felt very unmotivated. However, I still watched them. After a while, suddenly something shifted inside and I felt very motivated to keep watching.
Is this what is meant by “a light begins to shine in the darkness”?
It feels like I have to cling to a higher part of myself to keep going and the more I keep going, something below gets darker and more intense in negativity. At the most intense point then, it is like it is being reversed and suddenly everything is great again. Like a black hole turning into a white hole or something.
Are these the continuous “ascents and descents” that Kabbalah talks about?
Hi Niklas,
Yes, that’s what is meant by ascents and descents, in principle. Just as you described. There is always somewhere in a person the Point in the Heart, and it’s a sensor precisely for the wisdom that talks about the ascent to the Upper World because this Point fell from there. There is always a more dominant part in a person that wants to remain without spiritual advancement, like an animal, which can remain generation after generation for another billion years. If a cow has water and grass, it needs no further development. You see how some of the monkeys remain on their trees now, millions of years after we came down from them. So, also within a person, there’s always a part that knows there is only one thing this world is for, and that is to use this world to reach the Upper World.
Hello,
In one of the videos, Julian said that inside the group students are going to experience ups and downs, that problems will occur, that everyone has to participate in order to work. He also said that in the process one is going to experience darkeness and then even more darkeness. My questions are:
1- What kind of problems can arise in a kabbalist group? Disagreements about wisdom? About the Kabbalistic texts?
2-He also said that we only evolve spiritually if we participate actively in the group, “through the clash of Points in the Heart”. How is that?
3-This experience of darkeness that he talks about could affect one’s physical/mental health?
Thank you.
Hi Tiago,
<p style=”text-align: left;”>No, the wisdom of Kabbalah can’t affect one’s mental health because one agrees to all the states he goes through. He can go back to his regular sensations if he wishes. But then, of course, he turns back the way he came on the way to the “King’s Palace”. Baal HaSulam writes about how “the guards” on the way are increasingly cunning, which is why most give up and never taste spirituality. He did not have enough of the right desire to mount the trail that goes all the way to the gates of the palace. Only if besides his own private desire he integrates with the desires of friends on the same path will he have the required desire, a desire of a certain quality that must consist of desires not belonging to any single individual. Of course in the process of trying to connect – because no one wants that, by our very nature – their will be some friction. But in the right environment, it should all happen in a controlled way where the environment compels us to immediately find a spiritual solution, and not to just argue. We will see what this means when we come to it, these aren’t fights like we might be imagining but problems in connection due to the fact that we are the product of a Shattering and are broken, and we turn to the Upper Force, being the only thing that can repair us.</p>
Hello, my question has to do with insatisfaction of so many religous folks, especially in Christianity, where spirituallity is seen as a rational practice first, an then somehow, as a spiritual sense. The thing is, one first must rationally accept all of the precepts they preach, in order to move on to a spiritual path based on faith, so they say, guided by the spirit. therefore, it denotes an absence of effort by the practioner, and everything is given misterously so that your consciuos finally grasps the title of salvation. They talk of the God head in three different personalities, and there comes the confussion, is it not? for theres only ONE creator. My question is, how to engage with this folks that have decipher the many contradictions in their current faith, and seek for more in their spiritual life?, how to share with them the concept of the awakening of the point in the heart, without insulting them, since they are part of the western paradigm?
We never address religious people, even though they are dissatisfied. They can find us on the internet if they are searching. It could be that they are only dissatisfied, but not searching for answers. And if I give them Kabbalah prematurely I ruin their development, and make it a longer, more difficult development, which in turn, harms me. We disseminate only to those who come to us asking, and then very gently.
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