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In reading or hearing the Zohar, I understand that we are to refrain from trying to figure out what is being said, or trying to understand it intellectually. Is this also the way to approach the articles and books offered in this and other lessons? Do we use logic and reason to grasp some of the articles and the illustrations you so brilliantly share?
Hi Steve,
The principle applies everywhere that we study for the Reforming Light, but we also need to try to understand, when things are presented logically. In fact, I’m yearning to understand, and that’s drawing the Light – not to have a superficial understanding, “this means this, that’s connected to that” but to attain what’s discussed as clear as holding a cup in hand.
Confusing, fascinating, I feel like I am back in chemistry class, trusting that if I just listen and attempt to memorize the words and concepts, at some point it will all come together and make sense. I hope my patience can last…………Thank you, I understand too little to formulate any questions.
Hi Gianni,
how are those spiritual structures such as Sefirot, Partzufim,Kli, Rosh and Guf identified, named and studied? in this world we have 5 senses, in spiritual world how do we see/feel/sense/comprehend spiritual structures? I know we use the word “attained”, what exactly makes an attainment?
thanks!
Helen
Hi Helen,
It’s hard, even impossible to imagine attainment since what scientists call facts are something far below this. For example, we don’t attain that dinosaurs lived or that monkeys evolved or that light is particles or waves. Such lenses can emerge such that all that is turned on its head. Those things, we don’t hold in our hands experimentally, the way I test if a ball is thrown up, it’ll come down. And even this is not yet attainment. But let’s say that’s the minimum for what we call attainment. The ball, you attain in the 5 senses that Nature developed in you. Partzufim, you attain with senses that Nature develops, but not automatically. Only with your sincere request. Getting to that is the whole problem.
another question. Why all instructors never talk about their attainment experience? because it’s hard to describe in such way it make sense to us? or something else? do instructors discuss that in your small circle? if not, how do you know everybody indeed attain the same thing and it’s not some wild imaginations specific to each individuals?
sorry I have a skeptical mind but I think it’s good to not blindly believe everything I hear. I know there is something called “above reasons”, if everything is done above reason, how do we know we are really following something real?
thanks!
The most important explanation is that it directs you to the sources and not to instructors. Meaning you have to have what’s called “faith in the sages.” They write about the spiritual world that they attain, and provide you a method to do the same. Beyond that, there are no guarantees. It only seems to students that some instructor testimony would be of assistance. It turns out that that would require belief in someone as well – someone of far lower stature than Baal HaSulam, Rabash, Dr. Laitman.
Hi Gianni thank you for trying.
do you mean along the way we will develop the 6th sense, which you guys call the science of Kabbalah, through that new 6th sense, we are able to perceive the upper structures ?..It’s so hard for me to imagine what exactly is that 6th sense and how the new world will unfold in front of me. but I will know 100% when that day comes?
thanks
Hi Gianni, each does all the 125 spiritual levels exist within Malchut phase 4? Are the other phases of light something that Kabbalists attain?
I’m having a hard time following with the chronology, speaking about how shame occurs in the partzuf in tikkun olam in the chapter of adam kadmon, after the four phases of direct light, and 4 chapters after the one on shame, I’m lost.
I think you have some background knowledge that is confusing you. Where did you get ‘Tikun Olam’? The World of Correction is Atzilut, which comes later. Where did you get Partzuf? We don’t call the 4 Phases of Direct Light by that name. These are specific technical terms, so they only apply in specific places.
He is speaking about Partzuf in the video at 2:58 and after. Then since the video is speaking about the work with the light and the intention in the Partsuf in Malchut I guessed that it was the work of Tikun which I believed did not occur before Tikun Olam.
But until now I believed Adam Kadmon was only the first world at the beginning of the four phases of the direct light, the one created by the Kav in the Tzimtzum, so Adam Kadmon in Malchut is new to me.
It all starts with the Four Phases of Direct Light, then Shame, Restriction, and then there is the matter of a Partzuf, since it is the result of Restriction on the ordinary way of receiving.
This first Partzuf is already called the World of Adam Kadmon. World comes from a word that means Concealment. The Created Being hides the Light from itself.
There’s no concept of “Adam Kadmon in Malchut” here, unless you refer to the fact that everything is happening inside the Malchut of Eyn Sof. It’s understandable that things are getting confused, they will get sorted out.
My confusion comes from the general order. The way I’ve learned it was EinSof > Tzimtzum > Kav > AdamKadmon (fist kli) > four phases of direct light, at the end of which Malchut.
But in this course the world of Adam Kadmon is created for Malchut in order that it can reach the equivalence of form with the creator. (and not in Malchut as I wrote before, my bad) That’s in the 38 first seconds of the video 7.
So I missed or misunderstood an essential information in order that it can be coherent in my mind because it seems to me that if Malchut exists, Adam Kadmon necessarily exists too at the beginning of everything.
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