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- April 1, 2022 at 4:36 am EDT #285312magloire ilungaPartícipe
I understand that kabbalah is a science to develop an extra sense beside the natural one that I have already in other to connected with the reality.
1. My question is this, in science we have different methods to obtain the same result. Are they other methods beside the science of kabbalah or it’s the universe, unique, original way?
2. The extra sense that we develop in kabbalah is it what some call third eye? Holy spirit…?
3 . The instructor explained in concept I( as soon as the light reach the kli, the fulfillment cancel the pleasure we was once looking for) is the same thing apply with money ? Because I realized that if I was looking for $100, once I have it, I am start looking for an extra number…. same principles with food because when I am hungry, I eat and tomorrow i do the same over and over,
Why can I just eat and reach the pleasure of fulfilment forever so I can move to the next thing and next level….
Because it feels to me like by me doing that, I look greedy since we supposed to be connected with others according to the third principles (How am I connected with others everyone)- April 3, 2022 at 7:26 pm EDT #285554Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Magloire,
Yes, it applies to any pleasure. Since Kabbalah literally translates as reception, it’s the wisdom for how to receive. So the way you perceive reality with the current vessels you have is one where you see reality 70 years of trying to fulfill your desires, turns into (with the addition of a new nature, a new “sense”) perceiving reality through new vessels which are all about filling the desires of the broken vessels outside of you. In order to fill them, you need to feel them, acquire them as your own and exist through them as a means not to receive for yourself, but to receive in order to bestow which is the intention to be similar to the Creator.
The gradual concealment of the One who created us is for us to each time have the right desire to reveal more and more. The true fulfillment is equal to the true pleasure which is infinite. An infinite vessel and infinite fulfillment. The desires that come and go, the ones we feel on this level are ultimately to awaken in us a new desire for actual fulfillment. You’ll notice you forget about all the pleasures you felt as if you never were fulfilled. This is how the will to receive works since it’s built to reach the degree of the Creator and this program won’t stop unfolding until the end of correction. It certainly feels like “oh, I just need to eat again?”, but nothing is repeated as the same state. The more sensitive you become to these things, you’ll see that each moment is an opportunity, it just depends on how ready you are to react to each opportunity correctly so you can become wiser from each state and not simply go through them as if in a dream.
Let me know if that’s not what you were asking. Hope that helps.
Thanks!
Chris
- March 24, 2022 at 12:15 pm EDT #284712Richard LivelyPartícipe
What are these words?
Saba
Tvuna.I found them in the story “The Donkey Driver” in the zohar. I cant find roots or translation for them anywhere prior, and I cant find anything I can read or understand on the net. Thank you.
- March 30, 2022 at 12:54 pm EDT #285197Richard LivelyPartícipe
Saba I think is grandfather, but what about Tvuna? I cant find this anywhere in the literature I was reading. I finished the Zohar. I am thinking I missed something. Its good to know these words because it makes the text less confusing.
- April 3, 2022 at 12:29 pm EDT #285495Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hey Richard,
You might find these posts helpful.
https://laitman.com/2012/10/a-snapshot-of-internal-relationships/#gsc.tab=0
https://laitman.com/2011/10/crisis-is-the-birth-of-something-new/#gsc.tab=0
- April 17, 2022 at 12:05 pm EDT #286635Richard LivelyPartícipe
i just needed to know what the words were that i was reading they are not in english i was looking for the root and the origin of where these words come from. I think these are hebrew words but im not sure because the Sefer Zohar is in Aramaic.
- March 22, 2022 at 9:17 am EDT #284534cerenPartícipe
Hello, I cannot wake up to morning lessons and really feel terrible about it. I dont know what to do or know, what is the best approach at this condition?
- March 29, 2022 at 4:12 pm EDT #285150AprilPartícipe
+1
- March 22, 2022 at 8:57 pm EDT #284577Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hey Ceren,
Each person really is powerless when talking about the desire for bestowal. We have only this spark that lets us feel the emptiness of the will to receive for oneself along with a desire for something about this world, this perception of reality. This is the starting point for us all, but to expect a desire for more, cannot and will not come from oneself. A person is completely and totally dependent on the environment.
I wouldn’t set the bar so high. A person only studies where their heart is. If you can’t make it for the live lesson, watch it recorded (www.kabbalahmedia.info). Integrate here in the environment, and the morning lesson. You might feel like you have access to where the desire will come from and be able to integrate with it.
Don’t stress about this though. Just look at yourself from the side and see what the Creator is having you feel. It’s not for no reason, and you already know the direction, the aim, His intention – to bring you to equivalence with Him, expanding that point of desire He initially gave you to something infinite like Him. Try to react differently, check yourself – how you feel, what your thoughts are, mainly – what do you want, and to whom do you want to bring pleasure? To yourself or to the Creator? Once you have the diagnosis, you can already start working with the tools He gave you. This is the effort. You’re not expected to succeed, since real success is a true, heartfelt prayer to be rewarded with the quality of bestowal.
Best of luck,
Chris
- March 13, 2022 at 4:20 pm EDT #283812Richard LivelyPartícipe
Ba’al Sulam writes in the 4th paragraph of the preface to the Zohar, concerning the “second boundary when studying the Zohar”:
“You should know that The Zohar engages only in the worlds, BYA (Beria, Yetzira, Assiya), and in Ein Sof and the world of Atzilut, to the extent that BYA receive from them. However, The Book of Zohar does not engage in Ein Sof and the world of Atzilut themselves at all.”
On the life Q&A I mentioned that the Zohar refers to “only the worlds BYA” as Matter and Form of Matter “since Kabbalist dont attain Abstract, or Essence, and I was told that the Zohar actually explains all the worlds. How is this when Ba’al Sulam says the Zohar only pertains to these three and only these three and furhter goes on to say in paragraph 5:
“And since these three boundaries are very strict, if the reader is not prudent with them and will take matters out of context, he will immediately miscomprehend the matter. For this reason I have found it necessary to trouble and expand the understanding of these three boundaries as much as I could, in such a way that they will be understood by anyone.”
What am i missing that Ba’al Sulam said that is not contradictory to the statement I just posted where he later says that the world of atzilute is actually in the Zohar. I didnt want to take up the time for the Live Q&A so I am furthering this question here.
- March 16, 2022 at 8:51 am EDT #284061Richard LivelyPartícipe
There is no way to edit so I should clarify. There is no ego here. Ba’al Sulam warns about not understanding the text correctly. You are the teacher, I am the student. I simply am lookin for clarification because I am reading Ba’al Sulam in “The works of Ba’al Sulam Vol 1 and 2”. I need to make sure I am understanding what he said correctly, as a student I can only assume what I read, so as a teaching im asking you what is being said. During the live Q&A it was mentioned the Zohar Covered all the worlds, but in this course it was said that we only attain matter and form of matter we dont deal in abstract or essence. This particular question I am asking does the Zohar deal directly with the upper worlds of Atzilut and then the Ein Sof? If it does not, I believe it points to the torah (In kabbalistic code), because Dr. Rav Michael Leightman, in his book Disclosing of a portion writes that the torah deals with the degrees of the patriarchs and total correction (the tabernacle and unification with the creator) as being very powerful spiritual degrees. In one of the courses there was the asch incident where if one was told they were wrong even if they were right because of outer forces and pressures one would admit to being wrong. This type of confusion needs clarification of great merit, which is why I am the student asking the teacher. What is really going on here, and why does it look like only the Zohar deals with in form of matter and matter only in the BYA worlds? What am I missing?
- March 22, 2022 at 8:46 pm EDT #284575Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hey Richard,
You said a lot there, I’m not sure where to go from initially, but the last question you asked was about Zohar engaging in form or matter only in BYA. It’s a little mixed up so I’ll try to say simply.
The Zohar talks about all the spiritual worlds, but maybe you’re asking about from which degree of attainment? Then we would say, it was written from the highest spiritual attainment, the full correction – raising the broken soul to the world of Atzilut.
About form and form clothed in matter, correct. We cannot attain the essence of the form, we can only attain the form clothed in matter, meaning clothed in desire. Without desire called “matter”, there’s no attainment as there is no sense. No light without a vessel.
- March 24, 2022 at 5:25 pm EDT #284726Richard LivelyPartícipe
I was able to find in the Parable of “The Donkey Driver” what I needed to know. The zohar Opens the door and the help is sent from above to guide us into higher attainment.
- March 8, 2022 at 9:12 pm EST #283454Ty PalodichukPartícipe
Why can’t we share our attainment with other’s?
- March 10, 2022 at 10:16 pm EST #283631Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hey Ty,
We don’t do it since there’s no benefit first of all in passing whatever you’ve experienced to others since there’s no way for them to feel what you feel. Secondly, whatever words are used can only cause harm since that necessarily paints some picture or redefines concepts that only confuses others, obligating them to chase after certain images or emotions that aren’t accurate. This is why each person does their work, letting the sources and the teacher guide them. Any discussions between us aren’t about personal attainments, but generally about inspiration, raising importance and giving good examples. That list is of course a bit more detailed, but that’s the idea. Whatever we do, whatever actions we make or words we say, we always have to be very careful that we aren’t confusing anyone trying to implant in others what I felt or feel.
Thanks!
Chris
- March 10, 2022 at 7:57 am EST #283570Richard LivelyPartícipe
attainment can be shared in writings, but you only you can attain something and experience it. This is why the Kabbalist have attained all the levels through the ten. I took the class thanks for the advice
- March 6, 2022 at 3:30 pm EST #283237Richard LivelyPartícipe
I am very interesting in receiving more light from the Zohar as I read, it not just become exposed to it. It has been mentioned a few times now in quite a few recommendations when studying the Zohar, that there are 4 introductory books that need to be read to fully grasp and understand what one is reading. I own from this publisher of class text several books concerning this subject. Could you please list the books that are considered by Baal Sulam the ones I need to purchase from the student text section that are considered these 4 introductory books. Because I would very much like to add them to my study and library if at all possible.
Also there is a book by Ba’al Sulam called mastering the ladder still in print. Is it recommended to get this since with Kabu and the education therein it will be understood at some point and keep connecting more and more from the kabbalist writings so that such a connection will be revealed with the writers?
- March 6, 2022 at 7:35 pm EST #283255Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
- March 8, 2022 at 7:40 am EST #283415Richard LivelyPartícipe
im sorry excuse my not understanding, what is this and these? If you put links i cannot see them
- March 8, 2022 at 8:03 pm EST #283449Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Oh weird, I see it didn’t create a hyperlink.
This is what it should show:
- March 9, 2022 at 1:40 pm EST #283510Richard LivelyPartícipe
I own all of these books currently except a few. I dont have “The Cabbalist” and I dont have “revelations of zohar” yet. I do want both ill eventually get them. My question was, that Dr. Rav Michael Leightman said “In order to understand the zohar you must first read 4 introductory” I have also seen this in “Enter the Zohar” course. What introductory are they referring to. Where do we get this information? Is this in the recommendations you made? Or is there another source. I was hoping there was a group of books that was sold but im guessing this might be a different thing being referred to. I went on the Kabbalah Library and cant find what im looking for but I can find Introductory to the Zohar. as an outline. I am interested in the titles of the books that are the 4 introductory mentioned on the course and by other youtube instructors.
- March 10, 2022 at 10:17 pm EST #283632Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Oh ok sorry, yea I didn’t understand.
I’m also not exactly sure which set you’re referring to but I’ll check with the team and get back!
- March 12, 2022 at 11:41 am EST #283732Richard LivelyPartícipe
I bought the two volumes of Baal Sulam, i think i found the answer. Preface to the Book of Zohar,” “Introduction to the Book of Zohar,” “A Speech for the Completion of the Zohar,” and “Preface to the Sulam Commentary. These are all required. I am interested in finding the commentary on Hasulem itself. Will this institution offer this any time soon. I have the book of zohar volume 1 already also.
- March 15, 2022 at 10:33 am EDT #283965Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hey yes, came here to say this that these are probably what you were referring to and you can find them here:
https://kabbalahmedia.info/en/sources/tswzgnWk - March 15, 2022 at 8:34 pm EDT #284015Richard LivelyPartícipe
Thank you, yes I think this will do nicely I appreciate you not forgetting about me and taking the time to actually answer my questions. I am sorry if they have been a bit harder to answer, I have been really reading a lot of Dr. Rav Michael Leightman’s work and a lot of Ba’al Sulam and I have it seems an endless amount of questions. But thank you all for your guidance and helping me keep on the right track to good study habits when learning such a subject that if we let it , it can be quite confusing.
- March 11, 2022 at 12:17 am EST #283642Richard LivelyPartícipe
I have watched many videos on the Zohar, and read all of the recommended reading. It says that there are 4 introductory books required to understand it.
I was aslo looking to acquire a full set of the Zohar of Rabbi Shimone Bar Yochia with Yehudah Lev Ashlag Commentary of Hasulam. I was wondering if this was going to be offered here. I have the volume 1 but i would like a full set that is explained by Ba’al Hasulam. I try to buy the books from the class to help support the efforts.
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