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    • #331820

      In the second stage, shame appeared as the Creature was only receiving. After the restriction and everything, we are still not able to receive/bestow anything without begging the Creator, and after we beg, He provides. So now, I not only feel shame that I am not able to do anything without His help, and I have to beg, but humiliation as well. How is this progressing towards the goal?

      Thank you in advance!

      • #331826

        All of that is based on the truth, but incorrect.

        In Phase 2, there is no shame. Shame comes only at the end of Phase 4.

        Nor in this state do we need to “beg the Creator.” It’s the opposite: it’s as if He begs us to receive all the abundance (and, to be clear, it’s not “us”, but rather Malchut, which precedes our universe and human existence).

        Nor in our world do we feel shame. We think we do, but we’ve never felt it. Rather, we’d sooner die than experience real shame and spend our entire lives making almost no moves other than to avoid feeling shame. We’re just not perceptive about this.

        • #331848

          But I do feel shame, and I was devastated to realize that I am completely helpless and lowest of all, even wondered how such a low life can exist, not even worth the attention let alone saving it!

        • #331851

          It’s not the spiritual shame Kabbalists speak of.

          According to our potential though, we’re the height of Creation. According to our present behavior though, we like all the other animals, but lower. Because they’re not outright opposite to bestowal.

    • #331698
      AspiringAltruist
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      If Adam was a real person 5707 years ago, what happened to all the other ‘people’ around him and their descendants?  Why was Adam the only one given a soul?  Are there descendants of his contemporaries that live today who have no access to a soul?

      • #331699

        Adam was the first Kabbalist, but not the first human. Everything went in much of the way scientists think. So, there were many humans before and around him. Why his parents felt like naming him Adam, and why he was the first to reveal the Creator, we’ll know when we reveal the degree of Adam. It’s a degree. That’s what Kabbalists are talking about.

    • #331631
      Adelina Santos
      Partícipe

      Hello

      To raise MAN means to raise Ohr Hozer?

      Thank you

      Adelina

    • #331627
      Adelina Santos
      Partícipe

      Hello,

      At the final correction, when Malchut de Malchut is corrected, and all the souls becomes one with the Creator in Dvekut, does the spiritual fear disappears?

      That you

      Adelina

      • #331672
        Adelina Santos
        Partícipe

        Hi Gianni

        Can we raise MAN without a masach (screen)?

        Thank you

        Adelina

        • #331673

          It’s a question if we can do any spiritual action except try to obtain a true prayer in the heart for the connection with others in which the Upper Force is revealed.

          Raising MAN is already an action borne out of a to some extent connected Kli. It’s an uncorrected Kli, but they’re all asking together.

      • #331634

        Kabbalists don’t write about after the end of correction. Spiritual fear means making sure never to use the vessels of reception for my sake, and only using them for the Creator’s sake, though. So, it seems there’s no way it could ever disappear.

    • #331626
      Adelina Santos
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      Hello

      Is the light that Reforms the same as surrounding light?

      Thank you

      Adelina

    • #331496
      AspiringAltruist
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      Where is all this going?  What happens after we connect enough points in the heart and correct the world?  Where will Kabbalah be in 1000 years?  Does humanity dwell with the Creator?  What does that look like?  Like specifically.  Does all the chaos and confusion in the world resolve?

      Or does the corporeal world implode from the maturation of the ego.  Is that the plan?  Do we all end up as dust because we blew ourselves up and we live in the rest of our existence in spirituality?

      • #331572

        No, we can’t reach spirituality that way. This is the ideal reality for reaching it, and from here precisely we will reach it. Only then this world can disapear from our perception. Each circle that connects, awakens further circles. This world exists as long as there are still those who have not corrected themselves. Afterward, this imagination disappears.

        • #331635
          AspiringAltruist
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          Interesting!  Seth said tonight in the Sage Speaks “Not even Kabbalist know what the end of correction looks like, we’ve never seen it”

        • #331637

          I wrote earlier today almost the same thing as Seth to a student in another forum. What can we do if Kabbalists contradict each other, and even themselves?

        • #331646
          Eva
          Partícipe

          What can we do, really?🤔
          Anything but leave?

        • #331647

          Sure. Stay a bit longer. Then a person sees that there’s always a contradiction. Not just one, but every time. In the writings themselves there’s usually two opinions, then between them the middle line. I don’t reach that unless I change.

        • #331696
          AspiringAltruist
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          I feel like they are both perfectly good answers!  Iron sharpening Iron.  Different perspectives of the same outcome.  There are probably many answers to this question.  I’d love to hear them all.

        • #331653
          Eva
          Partícipe

          👈🙏👉
          Wow, that’s deep❣️

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