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    Ask anything about week 3 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #328336
      Cinco Leone
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      I was hoping to get some clarification on the third and fourth factors relating to an individual’s development. To my understanding, the third factor is a second layer of cause and effect driven by the environment. Using the seed analogy, this environment directly relates to the developmental process of the seed but cannot alter the predetermined path of development set by the seed’s nature, but it can influence the manifestation of that seed’s end product in a quantitative/qualitative way by producing more or less stalks of wheat than its progenitor for example. It appears that this occurs as a direct response to the interface between the essence of the seed in relation to the environmental conditions that are available and is therefore out of our conscious control, This just happens automatically. What I am having trouble understanding is the fourth factor of environment. At this level particular environmental factors are categorized as not directly related to the developmental process of the seed such as winds, other plants and hail storms that still have an impact on the seeds rate of development. Are we to understand the difference between factors three and four as environmental factors which we choose vs environmental factors that are beyond our control? If that is the case, then the seed analogy seems to fall a bit short because a seed does not get to choose whether it is exposed to other plants, winds, or hail storms. It was also stated that a person is neither punished for their good/bad thoughts and deeds because those things arise automatically but they are punished for the environment that they choose to abide in because that is what determines the type of thoughts and activities that they will engage in. If a person inherits a packet of data (via the bed )from their ancestors and previous incarnations, won’t that information have an impact on one’s decision making skills when it comes to choosing an environment for one’s self? If I inherit negative thoughts and behaviors, those thoughts will probably result in me choosing an environment that aligns with those thoughts and behaviors giving rise to more of the same. What would compel an individual with automatic negative thoughts to choose an environment contrary to their current nature?

      • #328691

        Cinco,
        As a review,
        the first factor is the source, it contains, like a sperm the grown man, but only in potential
        the second factor is the software that operates the source, this source will grow to be a man for example and not a penguin
        the third factor are for example the food and the schooling that enters inside and influences the development
        the fourth factor is poor economic condition of the country so instead of going to school, the person could only develop in the field

        This is a simplified review, but to go further it was important to clarify.
        We cannot change our source.
        We do have the ability to chose a good environment.
        Not every has the ability to chose a good environment.  For some it will take more suffering and more incarnations.
        Seth@KabU

        • #328948
          Cinco Leone
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          Awesome, thank you very much for the thorough response Seth!

    • #328333
      Jarrett Twaddle
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      What is acceptable and unacceptable to bring to the group (when we’re placed in one) for the purpose of prayer? Should we invert our desires and pray for others the very things we feel burning for ourselves (spiritual and/or corporeal)?

      • #328689

        Jarrett,
        You will have the opportunity to read several articles together with other students and a KabU instructor about the organization of the kabbalistic group and the prayer as well.
        It is further in the curriculum.
        Seth@KabU

    • #327417
      Ben
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      Remembering is the Equivalence of form toward being properly aligned with the Tree of Life or Family roots of Creation until the Creator delivers upon the Souls repercussion’s of “Lishma”. The roots and branches of the 10 emanation’s are the basics for building or children in His names Light, rather than goods and evils.

      • #328688

        Ben,
        I don’t understand what you are talking about.
        Very confusing.
        Seth@KabU

        • #328716
          Ben
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          Seth neither do I except through the opening of the Zohar I find the Creator to be true. And this is why my fellow Pioneer we must always maintain in the direction of “His Name”. For the souls’ healing from within the Upper force torward the beauty of Israel and the far reaching.

        • #328825

          Ben,
          OK, but since in the meantime we are still living on Earth and communicating with each other, it is helpful and helps us advance more quickly and comfortably if we can communicate in a way that we can understand each other.
          Seth@KabU

    • #321677
      Loria
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      This has been helpful in showing me the basis for some religious thought.  It brought understanding to me of the practices that my parents observed.  My experience has been to come away from religious practices, yet I see that as I grow in closeness to our Creator, I can better engage with those that I love.  I do wonder if we can know what we are learning and still remain in places that are in the Sacred Still?

      • #321724

        Loria,

        No problem.

        You can go to the Olympics or your church.
        You’ll have to balance how to maintain your culture and your family dynamics and also your  inner world that you are discovering.

        Seth@KabU

        • #321891
          Loria
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          Thank you Seth!  That balance alone will require the “prayer” as discussed in our lesson.

    • #321395
      Zealot Mines
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      Wow, that was a great session by Tony.. I am seeing more and more clearly.. I love the explanation.

    • #321352
      Brad
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      In this video Tony said we can’t bribe the upper force in prayer. Thats what religions try to do etc. i actually agree but how can we explain the event when Abraham bribed the upper force in sodom and gemorah, for G-d not to destroy it if he can find 50-10 righteous people?

      thanks

      • #321358

        Brad,
        If you want to jump straight to the literal, then you also need to ask about the bush that spoke and the sea that parted and the snake that talked, so let’s start to understand what we’re talking about first, what is this book called Torah and then we’ll have the correct approach to these questions.

        Check out this blog post by our teacher, the kabbalist Michael Laitman.  I think you’ll get a lot from it.

        VaYera (The Lord Appeared) Parsha – Weekly Torah Portion


        Seth@KabU

        • #321396
          Zealot Mines
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          Thanks for the share of this blog post.. it shades more on the lesson.  A whole lots of new concepts here..  In regards to.. “that which you hate, do not do to your neighbor”  “let mine be mine; let yours be yours.”
          Could you give an example on how I can apply or relate to it..  The far I have learned is that, it’s not related to any corporeal action.. meaning it on my thoughts and intentions?

          Does it eventually reflect to how I treat….  say my colleagues at work, family? Coz if I think and intend to do good.. some how I cannot do the opposite…

        • #321455

          Zealot Mines,
          All of the practical work that we will learn we will do together with the others in the kabbalistic group, who are working on the same goal, following the same method.
          Later as we develop new qualiites and abilities, we will learn how to expand this to more and more outer circles.
          In the meantime, be a good person in the world.  Try this and that.  Just not to be confused.  The spiritual work that we do at first is specifically within the kabbalistic group.
          Seth@KabU

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