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    Gil
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    • #402580
      Ricki
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      Could workshop rules be applied to creating a common prayer in the ten? What are some guidelines for a person to consider when writing a prayer into a group-chat: text that is formatted together with the additions from other members of the ten to create one common prayer of the day? Each person contributes to the whole and I’m wondering if there is an established approach or recommendations for writing in a way that can bring the ten closer to the creator and avoid it being charity.

      • #402601

        The workshop rules are general guidelines but the rules are much deeper. The whole work is really a workshop with the Creator through the friends, so it’s not amenable to a few rules. I think in the asynchronous case, in a chat, I need to be found in a state as though I’m really hearing the friends, integrating with their desire, and continuing them just enough and not more than the ten needs.

    • #402492
      maria santos
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      Hello Gianni.

      I keep hearing in various classes and reading in various articles that we have to come to the point that we realize we don’t and can’t really love our friends and that we have to reach a point where we feel so deeply how much we love ourselves that we are thoroughly disgusted and ask the Creator to help us change. Yet all I hear in the tens is how much in love everyone is with their friends, and so on. Should we not be trying to uncover our deep-seated love for ourselves, and not trying to fool ourselves into believing we love one another? It seems that trying to get ourselves to believe that we really love one another is prolonging our progress in the work, because until we come to the realization how evil we are in our will to receive we cannot come to a true prayer and that is what is needed.

      What am I missing?

      • #402499

        That’s right except that we can only sink more into our ego by thinking about it. By trying to do the opposite – loving the friends – we can expose our opposite nature and then have a prayer.

    • #402338
      Kimadigital7
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      Could we also say that connection is also direction? In other words, directing the friends to the Creator?

      • #402339

        If you can awaken friends to the connection, then certainly everything they need is found there in the connection.

    • #402249
      Ricki
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      Why am I powerless to avoid a decent, even when i can see the trough of the wave is approaching? For example one day i have a fantastic feeling of being so in love and concerned for the friends, i volunteer all sort of things toward them and aspire for equivalence of form with all my heart. Then, a couple days later, I’m skipping meetings and am more interested in what I’m having for lunch, even though I continue to receive reminders and invitations to engage. I’m stuck as to why this keeps happening and why each time there is more internal resistance to overcome.

      • #402292

        Because it wasn’t with your whole heart, with all of you, that you decided. With all of you, you have to decide, and the totality of the heart [desire] is revealed bit by bit – because all at once, certainly we couldn’t overcome.

    • #399593

      Hi Gianni, many times  we speak that the actions in this world don’t really matter, but the intention behind; then why are we creating this illusion of reality? Why does corporeality exists if what we say or do doesn’t really matter?

      Thank you!

      • #399651

        It does matter, otherwise the Creator would not create it. Precisely through this reality I must attain the Creator. I have nothing but corporeality with which to work toward Him. It is actually the spiritual world that I just see in this way, and so if I want to skip over it, I won’t be able to.

    • #399237
      Brad
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      Hi Gianni

      1• Since Adam was not the very first human, and, being made from the dust, already “mature” what does these descriptions mean? Dust, not a baby but a Man etc. or is it not even talking about the “physical man”?

      2•  how did humans evolve, was it through millions of years of molecules and bacteria ? Living on the animal level until Adam awakened a desire ?

      3• also, since im here, during the NY retreat you did a special teaching on perception, you talked about modern day prophets, the blind lady that could read, and flat earth etc.  can, or “have” you done a youtube video on that? I would like to watch it again.

      thanks

      • #399649

        Hi Brad,

        I’ll do a YouTube close to that topic on KES this Sunday.

        Adam existed. His parents felt like calling him Adam. That’s because he was destined to be the first to attain the degree of Adam, from the word Domay (similar) to the Creator.

        Humans evolved very similarly to how scientists guess we evolved. It is a guess since no one was there, and even if we could somehow show that such principles do play out experimentally, it will never prove with finality how the process itself took place, being far more complicated that an our experiments. But it occurred somewhat similarly to Darwin’s highly educated guesswork.

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