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    • #395679
      Kimadigital7
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      When we receive some pleasure in the work we tend to disassociate ourselves from the friends.  What advice can you give us not to fall into the trap of the desire to receive when we receive some kind of feeling?

      • This reply was modified hace 5 meses, 1 semana by Kimadigital7.
      • #395971

        Ask for a Screen. Usually, we’re only working above the suffering; here we have to work above pleasure too.

    • #394987
      Brad
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      This week, we are learning about dissemination in Young Group. I had discussions with my Christian co- worker, i mentioned, how everything comes from G-d. Including our thoughts, sins, He hardened pharaohs heart etc.   And basically most are just programmed, of course he says…but  we have free will, we choose to sin!

      Whats a good analogy or way to explain Kabbalistic free will? I think , we have free will but there’s a catch, kind of…? When do we really realize it?

      • #395000

        Hi Brad,

        In the middle third of Tifferet is where we realize true free will. The truth is we can’t explain Kabbalah logically. We can give a person one of our books because with a book you’re alone with the author, not confronting a fellow human. Then, if they come back to us enthusiastically asking for more, they may have a Point in the Heart, in which case they may be able to understand something; if they kind of don’t mention it afterward, you also have your answer. But especially one who has a religion that is giving them satisfaction, I wouldn’t try to disseminate. It can even cause us negative advancement.

    • #394900
      Kimadigital7
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      1a – Is the intention and action the same?

      1b For example, I heard that everything is taking us back to that state of oneness, and whatever we do must align ourselves according to that. So if I try to see that my friends are thinking to achieving bestowal and behind or within that thought of achieving bestowal is an intention to be one with the friends. It is just like there is no separation.  Is this calculation correct? 

      2- Is it ok to see the effort the friends are investing to exist self-love? And to appreciate them? What am I appreciating? What is appreciation?

      • This reply was modified hace 5 meses, 2 semanas by Kimadigital7.
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      • #394954

        1a – No, there’s an action, and on top of that I need to add an intention

        1b – I don’t know. Usually, I connect with the friends in order to give the Creator contentment, etc. The Creator should be the beneficiary, in the end.

        2 – I want to see the friend in a perfect state. Only I’m in self-love. I’m blemishing them, so they look that way.

        • #395665
          Kimadigital7
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          I got an impression from a video I watched when Rav said the desires are only to realise the action. And I was asking myself, what is the action? During the Sunday meetings with friends, we read an article from Rabash, it says and I quote…”In other words, this is the purpose of the act, that the created beings will receive delight and pleasure.”

          Is the action the ability to bring delight and pleasure to my friends?

        • #395673

          There’s the Creator’s act, and our acts. His was certainly to bring us pleasure. And we want to resemble that, bringing pleasure to our friends, so that we realize the love for the Creator, through the friends.

        • #395678
          Kimadigital7
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          1- We want to come to resemble the Creator’s action, so we need to play a game, this game of imitation? Mimicking?

          2- In other words, do we want to imitate or mimic the Creator’s actions toward our friends with the sole intention of bringing contentment to the Creator?

          3- What is delight and what is pleasure?

        • #396042

          We need to try to bestow to the Creator upon the surface called the ten. It won’t be true actions of bestowal, but you can express your desire to be in bestowal.

          Delight and pleasure you can check for yourself because it’s whatever that is for the person, according to their vessel.

    • #394878
      Dave
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      How does the reforming light actually bring about change in us? Is there a particular analogy, narrative or mechanism that can be explained simply?

      • #394890

        We’re so in it, and operated by the Light, that we’re trying to imagine a situation in which it works, as if it’s not already doing everything. That’s it’s greatest miracle. The question is if we move sooner to the actions it wants to bring us to, than it’s already bringing us to them – that is, toward connection.

    • #394875
      Magsy Kapoor
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      Hi, Gianni!

      Another question for you: to remove the concealment one has to equalize with the screen, but which part of it? It has different properties. Is equalizing with the Aviut enough? Or is it just the first step? Can you explain more about this?

      Thank you <3

      • #394892

        Equivalence of form is absolute equivalence – so that’s Aviut (coarseness), Kashiut (hardness), and Ohr Hozer (Reflected Light) upon each layer of Aviut.

        • #394939
          Magsy Kapoor
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          Ah, so we don’t just need the right desire, but also the right intention and the right clothing. How are the desires and intentions different in each step of the concealment/revelation? What are they different in?

        • #394955

          That’s actually a very complex question. But the formula is the same in every state: Light=Desire×f(Screen).

    • #394387

      hi

      What are your thoughts on feeling bad for not doing enough to advance spiritually?

      What do you recommend reading, when I’m not in a young group or ten yet?

      • #394836

        If I dwell on it I’m in the Klipa (shell) and I’m even in a negative advancement. If the bad feeling spurs me to correct my actions, it’s good.

        I recommend reading Shamati or Attaining the Worlds Beyond.

        • #394846
          Sheila
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          May I jump in here Gianni? Just a thought I would like to add for Kai Andre Saue Skjelbred for reading. There’s a little book, physically small, called Gems of Wisdom. I keep this with me when I am out and about. Just having it helps to keep my focus, and that is doing something spiritually. I always know it’s there. When I am waiting for something I open it to anywhere and read a little. Short pieces, easy to read. Gems of Wisdom.

        • #394859

          That’s one I use also. Thanks, Sheila.

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