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    Gil
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    • #443838
      Verena
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      Hi Gianni, just re-posting this (I think the question might have been missed, or it was to lengthy, so I shortened it).  I am still wondering about this: it relates to Shamati 184 … about faith and the mind.

      1. In Art 184 it says that faith is related to separation, because it is related to corporeality. Does that refer to the fact that faith is something we feel in our bodies as sensations or states, and as states in a human beings come and go, so does faith? And does that mean it is impossible to have persistent faith?

      2. Is this why we get moved through ascends and descends all the time… because faith is naturally non-persistent?

      3. Does that mean if we aim at faith above reason, itś by nature, that we will have to rebuild this again and again?

      THANK YOU 🙂

      • #443880

        A descent is a new level of coarseness (desire) that has been revealed, over which I lack Faith (bestowal) and have to establish it. Faith is the ability be above the desire, called corporeality.

    • #443811
      Todd
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      How important is the study of Pticha?

      • #443812

        Baal HaSulam wrote Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah (Ptchia) as an introduction to the entire wisdom.

    • #443771
      Burney
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    • #443707
      Dave
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      In the group and in the study, we’re constantly talking about bestowal, trying to understand it, hoping to come closer to it, trying to want it for the friends. But the teachers keep saying that bestowal is something completely beyond us, something we can’t even imagine, let alone feel or taste. It’s totally outside our reality.

      So I’m struggling to understand: how do we aim toward something that we can’t grasp in any way?

      In my current senses, there’s just no taste in it, it feels neutral, flat, not good or bad. I can’t perceive it as anything desirable. And that leads to this wall of, “Do anything but leave.” But without any taste, it’s like working in a vacuum.

      How are we actually supposed to regard bestowal in this state? Especially when we try to want it for the friends in the ten, but we don’t even know what we’re hoping for. Are we just playing a game with words? Is that what it means that the Creator plays with us?

      I realize this isn’t a single, sharp question, I’m trying to get better at that, but I wanted to give a little context to express where I’m coming from.

      • #443708

        We need to try to carry out the advice more than we think we can. Only in that which is a bit beyond what you can do, is there a feeling. You need to aim as precisely as you can – according to Rabash, and especially according to the main points from the lesson that day – and do more than you can do. Then it’s sure that the Light is helping and in this help you will feel the Light.

    • #443690

      Hi

      I was watching Kabbalah Explained Simply – “Why the World Is Always at War”, and there you say that if you’re about to do something that’s not good for you, and you know in advance that it’s not good for you but you do it anyway, then it’s a sign that you’re growing.

      And one step further is when you feel that you’re going to do something that’s bad for you, but you feel like you have no choice at all.

      So my question is:
      Is everything I do actually predetermined, and what’s really changing is how I feel about what I’m about to do?
      In other words, are my actions actually correct in relation to the purpose of creation? So it’s actually a correct action, but I perceive it as wrong because it’s not for my own personal benefit?

      • #443695

        Hi Kai,

        Yes. But I don’t want to remain on that path of suffering where I do things constantly that are against the goal of life and thus my own interests. I want to become aware of what’s happening against me, and transcend the commands in me that force me away from my life’s purpose.

    • #443625
      Verena
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      Just adding to my previous question, because it is really confusing me a bit… I always thought that the mind is so limited it naturally creates separation, and that the ego uses our mind giving us distraction, doubts and all that.  But in Art 184 it says that faith is related to separation, because it is related to corporeality. Does that refer to the fact that faith is something we feel in our bodies as sensations or states, and as states in a human beings come and go, so does faith? And does that mean it is impossible to have persistent faith?

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