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Question to Seth about “A Sage Speaks” from 13th September:
Hi Seth,
Unfortunately I cannot join your lessons live anymore, but I am still watching every recording at least twice. Your way of explaining is awesome. 🙂
A question burns inside me, though:
When the Ohr Yashar (100%) is rejected and divided into Ohr Pnimi (20%)+Ohr Hozer (20%)+Ohr Makif (80%) we get 120%. Does that mean that the Light grows bacause is has been reflected on the Masach or it just changes it’s form? Like a sunbeam hitting on a magnifying glass? You can burn a whole forest with a tiny little peace.
Thank you for your lessons!
Ralitza
Here’s a reply from Seth.
Ralitza,
Hi :)The light reflected by the screen called Reflected Light dresses onto the Direct Light (which is coming Direct from the Creator) and this Reflected Light serves as the vessel for receiving the Inner Light into the Guf of the Partzuf.For example, if someone you love with all of your heart gives you a glass of water, it is not the water that is so pleasurable, but your relationship with the giver of the water. That new attitude with the Giver are the new vessels that are formed. This is different than what happens on the inanimate, vegetative and animate degrees that simply receive the water or any pleasure and the relationship is to the received pleasure, not with the Giver of the pleasure.
The Reflected Light is the intention to only receive the Direct Light on the condition that it can be received for the sake of the Creator – this is the relation to the Giver. So if the Kli can relate to the Creator let’s say 20% and not to the pleasure itself from the Creator, then this attitude, this intention clothes the Direct Light.
This amount of clothed light can enter inside the Toch of the Partzuf.
To answer your question, it is not a second 20% that goes inside the Partzuf. To the extent that the kli can work and clothe the Direct Light, to that extent, the Light can enter into the kli. All fulfillment happens inside the kli, not in the Rosh. The Rosh is only the calculation. Remember that point.
Great question.Additionally, as the masach purifies the screen, as we are starting to learn now, the kli starts to understand its relationship to the Light, what it can receive, what it can’t, why, what is the attitude of the Creator, what is my attitude, etc. so even as the partzufim seem to get smaller with less light, it has more quality, kind of like what you said in your forest example…but let’s follow Baal HaSulam and it will become clear.
Wishing you all good and see you soon,
Seth@KabUHi Ralitza,
Seth usually doesn’t answer in this forum, but I can tell you that it still adds up to 100%. To the extent that the Partzuf can receive in order to bestow, it can receive the light inside. So, let’s say it can receive 20% of the Light. The Ohr Hozer (Reflected Light) is actually the measure of how much I am able to bestow – meaning I could totally overcome the pleasure and not receive it, and bestow it instead. That’s the test. And it turns out that, to that measure, I actually receive it – in order to bestow. That’s why you see both are at 20%. It’s like if I transfer funds from one bank account, you’ll see that same amount in the other.
Hello, I have just joined the GE but am unable to find information on joining a ten. How will this occur? Thanks, David
Welcome David,
We are so excited to have you in the Graduate Environment. As you many have heard, this week we are all connected to the Annual KabU Retreat and hope you are going to be with us at this special event.In the Grad Environment, you will experience a myriad of lessons every week, and the “flagship” is what we call the Young Group. It starts every few months and in it you will embark on the practical Kabbalah journey. This is where you will be assigned a ten and learn all about the work in a ten. Your Young Group will be starting a couple weeks after the Retreat.
Dear KabU Instructor,
FAO Seth Breitman
Dear Seth,
Re. Aug 16, 2022 – Ptiha, Lesson 6 | A Sage Speaks
Question 1) Does Shame (busha), as referred to in sections covered (19, 20 & 21) relate to the fig leaf in the depiction of Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden?
Question 2) Why was Phase 4 forbade from receiving without limit forever and be happy then/there in this state? What made this decision and why?
Question 3) In the lowest permutation of the restrictions ‘Malchut of Malchut’ {Dalet of Dalet). If no light is received here because it is the coarsest of all, would the whole thing not completely and irrevocably disappear into complete darkness with no way out as it can never perceive any light in the first place as its in pitch blackness in this state?
I know this isn’t an intellectual quest but without getting this it will remain as mush and I need to get over these hurdles but its early days and your classes are so helpful.
Thank you again. Lyndon S.
Hi Lyndon. Again, I will forward your post to Seth. Having not heard the lesson you are referring to, I would answer your question like this:
1. Yes
2. There was no decision. It was a matter of cause and consequence. The creature cannot make a decision until it is fully formed. The ability to make a decision is the definition of a fully formed creature. This is where we are headed. The restriction in phase 4 was a consequence of the shame.
3. It would, but for the shattering. The one soul was broken into pieces and sparks of bestowal (light) were mixed with the vessels of reception. We call these sparks “the point in the heart” and they are the reason we ask about the meaning of life.
Dear KabU Instructor.
FAO Seth Breitman.
Dear Seth,
Re. Aug 9, 2022 – Ptiha Lesson 5 | A Sage Speaks
it is said that at Phase 4 the Vessel rejects the entering Light by way of the screen which, in turn, brings about the coupling and the striking as the incoming light hits this screen and is bounced off as rejected light.
It is also said that it is ‘man’s nature to cherish Bestowal and despise Reception’. And, by way of allegory it is said that the Guest may initially reject a Host’s offerings as the Guest initially feels this is Reception. This situation remains until the situation is completely switched where the Guest feels he is doing the Host a favour by receiving what the Host offers thus feeling this is actually an act of Bestowal from the Guest to the Host. But the Guest still could not enjoy the food because of ‘Shame.’ This situation continues until the Guest understands that his accepting of the Host’s offers is indeed a true and honest act of bestowal by the Guest back to the Host. This only happens when the original power of Reception (not the power of hunger nor the ‘Will to Receive’) transmutes and switches position to that of Bestowal by degrees.
Question 1) Have I got the above right-ish in my own words [the host & the guest]?
Question 2) How did Phase 4 ever come to perceive anything other than complete reception for its own self when in this greedy self-centred engrossed way it {Ph. 4] was happy?
Question 3) In the four phases of direct light, Phase 4 is depicted as being 100% reception (-) or completely for its own self, which surely means that it has had no ability to perceive anything other than itself or reception for its own self. Therefore Bestowal depicted as a (+), would never be comprehended by Phase 4 in the first place to start the process of the coupling and the striking?
Question 4) Rather like question 3 above, where does the sense of shame ever come from within Phase 4. If you take it that Phase 4 is complete reception there could not be any shame as complete reception could never feel anything other than the pure unadulterated desire to satiate itself 100%. The idea of shame implies that Phase 4 could not have been complete reception as it could not feel feeling as shame as implies a sense of understanding wrong or foolish action which requires a sense outside that of reception otherwise it would never be perceived.
Question 5) If I understand, the incoming light hits the Screen and brings about the ‘striking and the coupling’ which continues on and on until the new quality (vessel) is created in Phase 4 which completely flips the act of Receiving into one of Bestowal. How could this ever be if the incoming light (+) is rejected and bounced back by the screen then, the Will to Receive (-) would therefore stay in equilibrium and the status quo would prevail: incoming light, hitting screen, bouncing off and the will to receive remaining unaffected and this would perpetuate in-toto and forever without a need for change or possibility for so?
Sorry for being heavy. Thanks ever so much. Lyndon S.
A reply from Seth:
Lyndon,
Hi, good to hear from you again. Hope to see you at the retreat, virtually if not physically.
To your questions:
1) Your answer hits the target, but not a bullseye. You are adding some of your own additions. The most obvious is that the w2r always remains a w2r, it is never a will to bestow. We say things like “will to bestow” or “vessels of bestowal” but the w2r always remains a will to receive. The intention of why he receives is the only thing that changes. He receives in order to bring contentment to the host. Nevertheless, he still has to receive the pleasure, that is the purpose of creation, to receive (kabbalah) the pleasure.2) BHS explains and we went over it a few times, that the light develops the kli by entering it and exiting it. This creates yearning which is an addition to just to desire something. This only happens in phase 4, this is what identifies a developed creature, kli, when it is at phase 4, not before. When the Light leaves, he feels what he is, total reception and what he is standing opposite from, the Creator which is 100% to bestow.
3) In the wisdom of kabbalah we learn like in kindergarten. First the teacher tells us what is. Later we will understand why. So, BHS is telling us what is, that it doesn’t make sense or it seems to contradict or whatever else, so that’s because the wisdom of kabbalah is explaining everything in reality to us. So of course you will need to reach a spiritual perception to truly understand. In the meantime, we are simply learning what is, this is the structure of reality. Later we’ll understand how and why.
4) Lyndon, you are adding too much of your own commentary. BHS is saying that there is a process here where the light cascades down with the vessel as it develops the vessel. The light is what pushes the vessel to develop. There is no such thing as a vessel with it’s own authority. It is developing only and I repeat only according to how the light is developing it. So after malchut of ein sof, the light keeps developing the vessel, the next step is that the vessel feels that it is 100% reception and it is completely opposite in form to the Creator.
5) You are missing pieces of the equation. Why does the kli reject the light? The kli says I will only receive the light that I can recevie with the intention to bestow. So it is not only just to reject but the light that is rejected to that degree, it also to the same degree enters the vessel as inner light. So for example if the screen can reject aviut 0, 1 & 2, then the reflected light clothes on the direct light up to Malchut, Z”A, Bina and inside the vessel the lights of Nefesh, Ruach and Neshama are clothed.
We will review this again tomorrow, Tuesday night Sept 6.Talk soon,
Seth
Hello Lyndon.
Hello Lyndon. I will pass your post on to Seth. Meanwhile it seems to me that two points might shed some light on the matter. One, the shame kabbalists talk about is not like corporeal shame – like when I get caught stealing or somehow embarrass myself in public. We don’t have a way to relate to spiritual shame in this world. Kabbalists call it hell. Second, the will to receive is not flipped, it is permanent and unchanging. However, by the grace of the Creator, we can add an intention to it to where we receive in order to bestow.
Hello,
I recently joined the graduate environment.
Is there any chance to access to the material (PDFs) that was shared during all the past lessons?
Maybe we already have a shared folder for that…
My other question is: how will I be assigned to a Ten?
Thank you
Maria
I have heard on more than one occasion Mother Teresa used as an example of someone who had done good deeds but had only done it to please her own will to receive. How do kabbalists know whether someone else has attained the Creator or not? How do they know she was not acting in a spiritual manner?
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