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I have many questions:
Awakening to Kabbalah
Chapter 1 – The Great Kabbalists Throughout History, pp.1-23P 3
“Adam was the recipient of the first Kabbalah book: The Angel Raziel (Hamalaach Raziel).” He sensed the two worlds and described them in his book containing interesting drawings with explanations and diagrams
Adam Really wrote it!?P 5.
The book of Abraham the Patriarch, The Book of Creation (Sefer Yetzira). Why was/is it very far removed if it is full of benevolence? The world needs benevolence today, now!Moses. He was ordered to make Kabbalah known to the “whole humankind.” But Abraham wasn’t doing that before? Abraham always invited people to his tent to talk about Kabbalah. Now, at time, humankind was already all over the planet, and the order was making kabbalah known to all humankind. Then why did Moses just do it in that small geographical area where he lived. Moses must have known the meaning of “all humankind,” isn’t it?
Pp 6-7
“The Torah describes a certain era in human development, but it actually refers to the spiritual roots. “ I understand this duality, but I cannot stop thinking that it is very convenient almost like a manipulation or propaganda that every human personality from Adam, lived their lives only and exclusively to “represent“ in the language of branches, like outer shells with flesh and blood figures such as Moses and Pharaoh, animals and nations, and with names of objects, feelings, and actions the spiritual forces that come from the upper world to ours. All of them are from the same cultural, geographical and social group.Pp 8-9
“The vertical line, the light that descends from the upper force, from the Creator to the creature, is a personal sign…,” meaning that it is a personal, subjective sign/message/communication between the Creator and that specific person, the individual who studies The Torah?
So, if “a person who looks at the letters of the Torah, provided he or she has learned to read it correctly, can see his or her own past, present, and future through the combinations of dots and lines” means that the Torah has as many interpretations as qualified people read it or study it correctly?“Mitzvot (commandments, precepts) of “do” (positive precepts) or Mitzvot of “do not do (negative precepts).” Mitzvot/mitzva are as well as the correction of one of the 613 desires from egoistic to altruistic, the transformation of a quality of one of the 613 desires from its egoistic expression, right?
Also, there are 613 desires but recently I saw a video in Kabbalahinfo that mentioned 620 instead of 613. Could you clarify it?
Pp 11-14
To write the Zohar, first Rabbi Shimon Bar-Yochai hid in a cave in with his son Rabbi Eleazar. They sat in a cave for thirteen years, eating carobs and drinking water from a nearby spring. Their clothes were torn, so to stay covered, they buried themselves in sand. …
Didn’t they lose their minds? Didn’t they hallucinate?Why for 13 years exactly?
If Rashbi was the sole author of the book of Zohar, why is his son mentioned that he was also writing the Zohar while going thought the same ordeal as Rashbi in the cave?
Then, Rashbi gathered ten disciples around him including his son Rabbi Eleazar and Rabbi Abba.
Why if Rashbi trained, taught and ordered the nine disciples to write the Zohar, then it’s kept only naming Rashi as whom “both wrote it and concealed it.” They mentioned Rabbi Abba and Rabbi Eleazar in a minor way but why aren’t the other seven disciples mentioned and given the authorship as well if they were primordial in the success of writing the Zohar? What happened to them?When I read about Rabbi Shimon Bar-Yochai that “He is also among the most important sages of the Talmud” and that “his name is mentioned there some four thousand times,” and that he is practically the sole author of the Zohar, it makes me wonder aren’t the kabbalists attributing him a big ego, a great arrogance while ignoring everybody else?
Why it just mentioned Rabbi Abba as the kabbalist that wrote the Zohar in Aramaic, Greek and Latin? What didn’t mention the other nine writers?
In Kabbalah, everything is well planned and foreseen. How then is it possible that the Zohar was rediscovered merely “by chance” five/six hundred years after being buried? Chance/luck doesn’t exist according to Kabbalah, isn’t it?
At the same time, everything is/was well documented (if it wasn’t orally passed) from Adam to today, but we don’t know the name of the kabbalist that found the 2700 pieces of paper that was then the Zohar, wasn’t he that important?
Nor the Arab merchant that found these pieces of paper along the way and who was permitted to use them as fish wrapping, how is that possible?
And why was/is allowed that many parts of the Zohar were/are still missing?
P 17
“… “Eight Gates.” … “He (The Ari) explains the laws of the upper world, how humans influence these laws, and the reincarnations.” … Humans influence the laws of the Upper World! Isn’t the Upper World, the world of Roots impossible to be influenced by the World of Branches, by the human world?Thank you very much for your attention and I apologize for the many questions.
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Jose-Carlos
(1) The Angel Raziel (Hamalaach Raziel).” …Adam Really wrote it!?
That’s what the Kabbalists write. A Kabbalist attains all the Kabbalists before him. These are degrees. Thus, one can attain the degree of Abraham, and write from that degree. So, attain those degrees, and you’ll see who wrote it, and what it means to write.
P 5.
The book of Abraham the Patriarch, The Book of Creation (Sefer Yetzira). Why was/is it very far removed if it is full of benevolence? The world needs benevolence today, now!People today can’t use that book right away. They need a source that is closer to them. All the Kabbalists since Abraham adapted more and more the very same method of rising from our world to the spiritual world. The closest ones to us are Baal HaSulam, Rabash, Rav Laitman. Without them, and before understanding and attaining them, we can’t truly understand what came before.
Moses. He was ordered to make Kabbalah known to the “whole humankind.” But Abraham wasn’t doing that before? Abraham always invited people to his tent to talk about Kabbalah. Now, at time, humankind was already all over the planet, and the order was making kabbalah known to all humankind. Then why did Moses just do it in that small geographical area where he lived. Moses must have known the meaning of “all humankind,” isn’t it?
Better not to mix history with spiritual degrees. Moses is a degree. Abraham is a degree. You have to attain those degrees to understand history. Even our historians are deeply confused in their understanding of history.
Pp 6-7
“The Torah describes a certain era in human development, but it actually refers to the spiritual roots. “ I understand this duality, but I cannot stop thinking that it is very convenient almost like a manipulation or propaganda that every human personality from Adam, lived their lives only and exclusively to “represent“ in the language of branches, like outer shells with flesh and blood figures such as Moses and Pharaoh, animals and nations, and with names of objects, feelings, and actions the spiritual forces that come from the upper world to ours. All of them are from the same cultural, geographical and social group.We can like or not like the wisdom of Kabbalah. However, it’s not a philosophy that one should like or not like. Rather, a person either decides to take it and attain what the Kabbalists attained – in which case, they see for themselves that all is exactly as the Kabbalists wrote – or one doesn’t want to attain it for himself.
Pp 8-9
“The vertical line, the light that descends from the upper force, from the Creator to the creature, is a personal sign…,” meaning that it is a personal, subjective sign/message/communication between the Creator and that specific person, the individual who studies The Torah?
So, if “a person who looks at the letters of the Torah, provided he or she has learned to read it correctly, can see his or her own past, present, and future through the combinations of dots and lines” means that the Torah has as many interpretations as qualified people read it or study it correctly?Yes, for great Kabbalists who not only cross into the spiritual world but ascend to the world of Atzilut, the place of the letters, and they learn what letters actually are (it’s not that one who opens a Hebrew book already has access to such letters).
“Mitzvot (commandments, precepts) of “do” (positive precepts) or Mitzvot of “do not do (negative precepts).” Mitzvot/mitzva are as well as the correction of one of the 613 desires from egoistic to altruistic, the transformation of a quality of one of the 613 desires from its egoistic expression, right? Yes, a mitzva is the correction of a vessel [kli]
Also, there are 613 desires but recently I saw a video in Kabbalahinfo that mentioned 620 instead of 613. Could you clarify it? After the corrections between man and his friends are all realized – then there are a few more special corrections toward the Creator.
Pp 11-14
To write the Zohar, first Rabbi Shimon Bar-Yochai hid in a cave in with his son Rabbi Eleazar. They sat in a cave for thirteen years, eating carobs and drinking water from a nearby spring. Their clothes were torn, so to stay covered, they buried themselves in sand. …
Didn’t they lose their minds? Didn’t they hallucinate?What’s in the Zohar is also about spiritual degrees. Kabbalists don’t write about biological bodies, ever. Just like you would not write a book about your dog’s life from day to day, after he died. To write about history, for Kabbalists, is as absurd as writing the biography of a dog.
Why for 13 years exactly?
Those are spiritual degrees.
If Rashbi was the sole author of the book of Zohar, why is his son mentioned that he was also writing the Zohar while going thought the same ordeal as Rashbi in the cave?
I see that it’s not many questions, but a single question. See my answer below.
Then, Rashbi gathered ten disciples around him including his son Rabbi Eleazar and Rabbi Abba.
Why if Rashbi trained, taught and ordered the nine disciples to write the Zohar, then it’s kept only naming Rashi as whom “both wrote it and concealed it.” They mentioned Rabbi Abba and Rabbi Eleazar in a minor way but why aren’t the other seven disciples mentioned and given the authorship as well if they were primordial in the success of writing the Zohar? What happened to them?They’re the Ten Sefirot of Rashbi’s soul. They wrote it together. But each has his role, like organs in a body.
When I read about Rabbi Shimon Bar-Yochai that “He is also among the most important sages of the Talmud” and that “his name is mentioned there some four thousand times,” and that he is practically the sole author of the Zohar, it makes me wonder aren’t the kabbalists attributing him a big ego, a great arrogance while ignoring everybody else?
Each has their role in the system of Adam HaRishon. Some belong to the head, the elbow, the heel. Is the head higher than the lung? Yes, but they depend on each other.
In Kabbalah, everything is well planned and foreseen. How then is it possible that the Zohar was rediscovered merely “by chance” five/six hundred years after being buried? Chance/luck doesn’t exist according to Kabbalah, isn’t it?
It only depends on how we speak, since we need to speak to people while they’re under a complete illusion of time, space and motion, which don’t exist at all.
At the same time, everything is/was well documented (if it wasn’t orally passed) from Adam to today, but we don’t know the name of the kabbalist that found the 2700 pieces of paper that was then the Zohar, wasn’t he that important?
If Kabbalists mention a name, it’s probably a special discernment that we’ll need at some point. There’s an ocean of things they intentionally don’t mention. There are things that we’d think are trivial, but saying them would ruin the correction for others – meaning make the suffering they have to go through to reach correction much worse.
And why was/is allowed that many parts of the Zohar were/are still missing?
They will surface. If we need them.
P 17
“… “Eight Gates.” … “He (The Ari) explains the laws of the upper world, how humans influence these laws, and the reincarnations.” … Humans influence the laws of the Upper World! Isn’t the Upper World, the world of Roots impossible to be influenced by the World of Branches, by the human world?Humans influence. Not animals. Like your dog doesn’t influence you with his thoughts or movements, to give him an additional dinner, because you know what’s good for him, no one in our world impacts the Upper World. One who has a spiritual screen and Reflect Light (ohr hozer) is called human. Until then, I’m deemed just a part of the animal kingdom. I have language like dolphins, and like trees have between them – and there is nothing special in me except what I’m capable of. Because one has a chance to reach the quality of the Creator while he is alive in this world.
This part of the Kabbalist journey is all theoretical…and it all makes perfect sense. It is analogous to taking a course in cooking and learning about all sorts of different recipes without actually spending any time in a kitchen.
I look forward to actually getting into the kitchen so to speak in the first workshop and “tasting” what we create.
I read here again in one of the recommended reading documents, that kabbalists have a particular view on eastern teachings, but i can say that this is not the truth for all teachings. The path that I follow, the path of Self realisation, (not the little self, but the real Self), doesn’t diminsh desires, but transforms them (“corrects” them if you want), just as Kabbalah does. Why is there a tendency to generalize all eastern teachings? It irritates me a bit 😉
It’s because the main teachings of the East follow a certain approach that is characteristic of the approach that was their foundation, which they received through Kabbalists who passed on to them a partial Kabbalah that provided sort of half of the approach for dealing with the ego – in other words, in one line, as opposed to the work among the Three Lines. Today, out of one, two, or three approaches came over 5,000 religions. Here, we speak about the original approach, which in truth, there isn’t much left of it, even in the East itself, let alone in the hands of Western practitioners. But an even better answer is that when we talk about the methods of the East, meaning the original methods, it’s just a way of making more tangible a certain approach toward the Upper Force that is a tendency any student might happen to find themselves in, without realizing it – as in that slight deviation, one simply will not rise upon the spiritual degrees that Kabbalists write about.
every religion believes they have the only solution for human being, under the same region, every denomination believes their interpretation of Bible is the only right way. I have the same question to every of those, now to Kabbalah: why Kabbalah is the only way? why are we so sure? aren’t we limiting God by doing so?
There are many ways. However, we’re facing a set of laws of nature. Like in our world, if you knew what all the laws were, there would be no probability but only certainty, so the spiritual dimensions that lie beyond our world are subject to iron laws. The Creator, towards us, is an Upper Law, as it is written, “I, the Lord, do not change.” Therefore, the Kabbalists write that if one wants to discover the Creator, one has to attach themselves to one who attained the Creator, a Kabbalist, and follow their every advice. There could be many ways, but one has to choose one. Meaning, if I haven’t attained the Upper World on my own, it’s certain that I’ll need to choose the way of someone who has, and follow their every advice. Otherwise I’ll remain in this world.
You won’t have proof; instead it’s like my teacher was told when he asked his teacher, he was told, “You won’t get an insurance policy, but you’re free to go out and search for another teacher.” Kabbalists are uninterested in providing proof, and they don’t care about a student’s doubts. The door is open to come, go, and return if you wish, and to leave again.
But to give an answer, how do they know? They know. It’s maybe like how when you awaken from a dream, you know this is the real world, and what you thought was, certainly wasn’t. And let’s say that you awaken again, and discover another realer world. Then you are sure that there will be another and another real world, each more solid than the last, as your awake world is qualitatively more solid than the dream, though you always feel where you are as the real. Except the analogy is inexact when it comes to spiritual attainment. There, the reality of it and all-inclusiveness of it, and the certainty that this is the world of Truth, is certain. And we only don’t understand this because we have never felt truth, as we swim in falsehood like one who was born under the sea and so doesn’t know he’s wet. That’s why we think there can be parts of the truth that can be attained, and could be divided among methods, people, paths. There’s no such thing in reality. On the contrary, one who attains the Creator attains the same, One, whole reality – with Partzufim, Sefirot, etc. — that all others, in various times, attained. The same world. There is no other world to attain. So, either you did or you did not. And really, the method of attainment can’t be really really different, since it’s a system of laws standing between you and the Barrier to that world. And you need to change, to adapt to them, to feel that Upper World. How many different ways are there to speak to a human in this world and teach him how to do this? Not many.
thank you for the answer. I think I am starting to see your point. how did they know they attained it? because all of those who have attained were seeing the exact same reality, that’s why they know. because before that full attainment, everyone’ perception of the reality is always somewhat different, correct?
if you are able to attain that within this life time, what’s the point to continue living in this physical world?
thank you so much!
If you attained all 125 degrees, this world would disappear. But – few Kabbalists have attained all those degrees. And, there are some big surprises along the way.
What you said, that they knew they attained it because others saw the same reality and wrote about it, is a feature of attainment that may lend credibility for those who are below the Barrier to the spiritual world. But that’s not how they know. It’s more for the reasons I describe above and because there is a world of roots for everything that happens in our world, and they see this world of Causes and how the results traverse the Four Worlds to finally land in our perception. As opposed to our world where we literally have no clue why things are happening, and the cause and effect relationships we ascribe are utterly illusory.
through life Moses was someone who led the people out of slavery. How do we know he was a kabbalist?
You mean because there is a very old book, called the Torah, from which more modern people started making historical conclusions. While the reality is that that book was never a book of history, but a book discussing the interplay of spiritual forces one encounters on the way to the Upper World – and it’s just written using language that sounds like history. Within that story, one of the forces, a special one, is called Moses. Compared to others, he is a Kabbalist because he has attainment of the Upper Force.
I was reading “Great Kabbalists throughout history” and was wondering if “Adam, the first man” is the same Adam as described in the book of Genesis, Adam & Eve?
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