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    • #472633
      Ben
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      This part of the Kabbalist journey is all theoretical…and it all makes perfect sense. It is analogous to taking a course in cooking and learning about all sorts of different recipes without actually spending any time in a kitchen.

      I look forward to actually getting into the kitchen so to speak in the first workshop and “tasting” what we create.

    • #447345
      ilse
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      I read here again in one of the recommended reading documents, that kabbalists have a particular view on eastern teachings, but i can say that this is not the truth for all teachings. The path that I follow, the path of Self realisation, (not the little self, but the real Self), doesn’t diminsh desires, but transforms them (“corrects” them if you want), just as Kabbalah does. Why is there a tendency to generalize all eastern teachings? It irritates me a bit 😉

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      • #447388

        It’s because the main teachings of the East follow a certain approach that is characteristic of the approach that was their foundation, which they received through Kabbalists who passed on to them a partial Kabbalah that provided sort of half of the approach for dealing with the ego – in other words, in one line, as opposed to the work among the Three Lines. Today, out of one, two, or three approaches came over 5,000 religions. Here, we speak about the original approach, which in truth, there isn’t much left of it, even in the East itself, let alone in the hands of Western practitioners. But an even better answer is that when we talk about the methods of the East, meaning the original methods, it’s just a way of making more tangible a certain approach toward the Upper Force that is a tendency any student might happen to find themselves in, without realizing it – as in that slight deviation, one simply will not rise upon the spiritual degrees that Kabbalists write about.

    • #433711
      Helen
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      every religion believes they have the only solution for human being,  under the same region, every denomination believes their interpretation of Bible is the only right way. I have the same question to every of those, now to Kabbalah: why Kabbalah is the only way? why are we so sure? aren’t we limiting God by doing so?

      • #433718

        There are many ways. However, we’re facing a set of laws of nature. Like in our world, if you knew what all the laws were, there would be no probability but only certainty, so the spiritual dimensions that lie beyond our world are subject to iron laws. The Creator, towards us, is an Upper Law, as it is written, “I, the Lord, do not change.” Therefore, the Kabbalists write that if one wants to discover the Creator, one has to attach themselves to one who attained the Creator, a Kabbalist, and follow their every advice. There could be many ways, but one has to choose one. Meaning, if I haven’t attained the Upper World on my own, it’s certain that I’ll need to choose the way of someone who has, and follow their every advice. Otherwise I’ll remain in this world.

        • #433860
          Helen
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          how does Kabbalah define “attained”? how were those great Kabbalists so sure that they did attain? or how to prove that they did attain the whole, rather than a part?  thank you!

        • #433864

          You won’t have proof; instead it’s like my teacher was told when he asked his teacher, he was told, “You won’t get an insurance policy, but you’re free to go out and search for another teacher.” Kabbalists are uninterested in providing proof, and they don’t care about a student’s doubts. The door is open to come, go, and return if you wish, and to leave again.

          But to give an answer, how do they know? They know. It’s maybe like how when you awaken from a dream, you know this is the real world, and what you thought was, certainly wasn’t. And let’s say that you awaken again, and discover another realer world. Then you are sure that there will be another and another real world, each more solid than the last, as your awake world is qualitatively more solid than the dream, though you always feel where you are as the real. Except the analogy is inexact when it comes to spiritual attainment. There, the reality of it and all-inclusiveness of it, and the certainty that this is the world of Truth, is certain. And we only don’t understand this because we have never felt truth, as we swim in falsehood like one who was born under the sea and so doesn’t know he’s wet. That’s why we think there can be parts of the truth that can be attained, and could be divided among methods, people, paths. There’s no such thing in reality. On the contrary, one who attains the Creator attains the same, One, whole reality – with Partzufim, Sefirot, etc. — that all others, in various times, attained.  The same world. There is no other world to attain. So, either you did or you did not. And really, the method of attainment can’t be really really different, since it’s a system of laws standing between you and the Barrier to that world. And you need to change, to adapt to them, to feel that Upper World. How many different ways are there to speak to a human in this world and teach him how to do this? Not many.

        • #433938
          Helen
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          thank you for the answer. I think I am starting to see your point. how did they know they attained it? because all of those who have attained were seeing the exact same reality, that’s why they know. because before that full attainment, everyone’ perception of the reality is always somewhat different, correct?

          if you are able to attain that within this life time, what’s the point to continue living in this physical world?

          thank you so much!

        • #433941

          If you attained all 125 degrees, this world would disappear. But – few Kabbalists have attained all those degrees. And, there are some big surprises along the way.

          What you said, that they knew they attained it because others saw the same reality and wrote about it, is a feature of attainment that may lend credibility for those who are below the Barrier to the spiritual world. But that’s not how they know. It’s more for the reasons I describe above and because there is a world of roots for everything that happens in our world, and they see this world of Causes and how the results traverse the Four Worlds to finally land in our perception. As opposed to our world where we literally have no clue why things are happening, and the cause and effect relationships we ascribe are utterly illusory.

    • #433485
      Koriander
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      through life Moses was someone who led the people out of slavery. How do we know he was a kabbalist?

      • #433719

        You mean because there is a very old book, called the Torah, from which more modern people started making historical conclusions. While the reality is that that book was never a book of history, but a book discussing the interplay of spiritual forces one encounters on the way to the Upper World – and it’s just written using language that sounds like history. Within that story, one of the forces, a special one, is called Moses. Compared to others, he is a Kabbalist because he has attainment of the Upper Force.

    • #429642
      Mark
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      I was reading “Great Kabbalists throughout history” and was wondering if “Adam, the first man” is the same Adam as described in the book of Genesis, Adam & Eve?

      • #429730

        Hi Mark, yes, Adam HaRishon (first man) was not the first man, but the first to reach the degree of Adam [human], meaning a degree above the ego, above our world.

    • #424751
      Katrina Leeks
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      My motivation for things I used to find fulfilling is gone. I’m only interested in revealing the Creator in my life. Yet, I am in a place where I don’t see Him enough to take action in anything because I don’t want to draw further away from Him. I continue through my days and I am studying, but what should my prayer be? Should it be for an altruistic quality?

       

      • #425713

        Hi Katrina,

        The prayer should change. It’s from your current state, to the Creator. Knowing the goal of Creation, what is a prayer that you could truly ask now, your state +1?

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