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    Ask anything about week 2 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #338139
      Christian Hernandez
      Partícipe

      When we talk about desiring in an altruistic way, can we be selfish to ourselves by giving others and not giving to ourselves what we need? How do we recognise when we should stop giving others because they are taking too much? Should I feel guilty if I think of myself and my needs first, is that acting from the ego?

      • #338223

        Christian,

        During the study you will start to feel which of your desires are inanimate, vegetative and animate desires. Regarding these, they are not praised nor condemned. No one praises a hippo for eating dinner or a bee for making a hive and no one criticizes a lion for eating a zebra.

        Similarly, we each have a level of necessity, maybe for you it is a three bedroom house with a pool or maybe it is a small apartment, this is according to each one. We work, we have family, we take care of our health and behave like a normal person. These are our inanimate, vegetative and animate degrees of desires and these are not praised nor condemend.

        Later after learning the fundamentals you will have the opportunity to work in a practical way with others in the spiritual work.

        In the meantime don’t go trying to love someone  with all of your heart, all of your soul and all of your might if they are not playing the same game as you, learning what you are learning. That is a recipe for problems.

        Seth@KabU

    • #337788
      Robert
      Partícipe

      how are the ratios determined as one climbs or descends ? how can we learn to measure this?

      • #338224

        Robert,

        We are learning about attainment. Just as you know when you are holding ice in your hand or a warm cup of tea in your hand, in the same way, you will feel spirituality as something that you feel.

        Seth@KabU

    • #337660
      Om Agni
      Partícipe

      Is the point in the heart that we are talking about, something similar to the “sephirot” DAAT in us?

      • #337679

        Pablo,
        The desire inside of us that yearns for something not material, something eternal, some meaning of who we are why we are, that is the seed of our soul, that is the point in the heart.
        Seth@KabU

    • #337542
      Sheila
      Partícipe

      This teaches me a great lesson in Our reality. We may not be the same, have the same interests, but in the Upper World we are all the same, without ego. How we see each other with our differences in this world changes when the Will to Bestow becomes paramount. Acceptance of each other changes when our Will changes from receiving to bestowing. This seems to be the lesson for humanity. Is that right?

      • #337664

        Sheila,
        Yes, this is a good start.
        You’ll feel how much artistry, nuance and craftsmanship is involved in all of this, but it is close to what you wrote.
        You are close to the target 🙂
        Seth@KabU

    • #337359
      Tracie
      Partícipe

      We are 100% egoist, the will to receive and have to learn to harness the force of development that the thought of creation provided for us.

    • #337348
      Seamus Dolan
      Partícipe

      I have read that we cannot bestow to the Creator and therefore we learn to bestow within the group. As we have learned that Kabbalah only deals with the Upper world and has nothing to do with Our world , what is it exactly that we learn to bestow within the group?

      • #337412

        Seamus,
        These are very exalted things and it will take time to understand and feel these things.
        Of course the Creator dresses Himself in the four degrees of reality (inanimate, vegetative, animate & speaking) corresponding to the four phases of direct light that emanate from His essence.  But without these dressings, how will we relate to Him, how will we touch Him, see Him, relate to Him.  Until He is revealed to us as it is called “face to face”, so we approach Him from the backside, through His clothing in reality. And specifically through others who are also working with the texts, the light in the texts, playing the same game with us.
        We will learn about this more in the future.
        Seth@KabU

        • #337519
          Seamus Dolan
          Partícipe

          Seth,

          Many thanks for your reply. I look forward to continued study.

          Best wishes

          Seamus

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