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it is said that when one follows a path based on someone else’s opinion it is called “faith beneath reason”. how is that different from faith above reason because in both instances one is following a path only based on someone else’s view or understanding?
Hi Ludumo,
Faith above reason means I have my reason. Not only that, to have my reason means I put a lot of time and effort to understand what is happening. I don’t disregard it. I spent 20 years gathering concrete and water and steel and I built a building and I furnished it with chairs and tables and carpet. I did everything, I invested all I had in this and then I discover that from all of this investment, on top of this building, there is somewhere else.Maybe a father goes to war and comes home and gets married and builds a building and then he has a son and everything he built, all of his effort and fighting and sleepless nights, now, he realizes that it’s all led to something else, there is someplace else, he didn’t know this before, but now, he sets everything aside and lays down on the floor with his baby and opens his heart to something else.
That is an example, I’m trying to give a feeling of what is happening.
Faith below reason means that I get an emotion, and I follow it, I didn’t invest and in something and then reach some new degree where I see that I must go above everything I am, everything I did and attain something wholly different and higher.
Seth@KabU
If kabbalah is a science and science depends on the reality created through the perception of the five senses and the ego making sense of that, how can this statement be true scientifically? “There is no reality outside a person’s perception.”
Nancy,
I have few teenagers and with their senses they perceive their reality as true.
No explanation of mine will convince them otherwise, so I aim them in the right direction and impart on them good habits so they will develop in a safe and comfortable way and then they will acquire my perspective on their own through experience and they will finally make their bed and do their dishes LOL.
The kabbalists are doing the same with us. There is only one reality and what we think we feel is a spec of sand on a spec of sand of what exists.
Take any of our sense, for example, take our sense of sight. The spectrum of light spans from ultraviolet rays to infrared rays and there is a tiny sliver that is the visual spectrum. This means that with better tools, we could perceive much more reality, we’d see other forces all around us that we don’t see now. The same goes for all of our senses.
We didn’t even speak yet of what we begin to feel when we start to perceive the spiritual reality that exists beyond the skin, that is built with a common vessel between people’s intentions. Here there opens up 5 more spiritual senses.
All of this is ahead of us.
Seth@KabU
What is the practicality of Kabbalah in changing ones perspective about what is real and what is not?
Michael,
There is a very important principal that we will study called there is no light without a kli.
And we will study this in depth later. In short, all of reality is filled with upper light, filling everything everywhere evenly.
We on the other hand feel almost nothing.
You never wanted those sneakers until you saw them somewhere. They existed, but you never wanted them until there was some impression made in your vessel and then you went out to fill that emptiness that was left by the light making an impression in your vessel.
That’s a pair of shoes. The same things happens when we get hungry and for everything we do, an emptiness opens up and we look for a spark of light clothed in matter to fill that emptiness.
But how can we ingest all of reality, how can we attain something endless, real, true?
For that we have the wisdom of kabbalah, which means literally the wisdom of receiving.
In order to perceive the endless reality, we need to relate to reality with new senses, we cannot only perceive life through the desires of our protein body, which by the way we must also, we must eat and take care of ourselves and our family, our friends. And also we will learn how to make a spiritual vessel and the light will make an impression in their and we will feel a new reality.
Seth@KabU
Dear KabU,
For me is everything new and quite a lot of the time I don’t really understand it. For example I still not really understand the 10 sefirot. Does it matter, of just by studying everything will make more sense. For example some texts I really understand and some are to complicated for me.
I see already I understand step by step more, but sometimes I think, shall i read it over and over till I understand it. Or can I leave it now as it is and later it will make sense. The mean question is, is it important that i really understand it through or is a bit also enough and will think come back later.Danielle,
You sound like a kabbalist 🙂
As the verse says, ki mi’tzion tetze torah. Literally, “from Zion comes the Torah”. The word tzion (zion) means “exits”. From exits we receive the Torah. It means that the light enters the vessel and then exits, again and again and this builds impressions in the vessel.
We can see this in our world, an infant has only eaten mashed peas and carrots. Then she gets a little older and at a birthday party she gets her first taste of chocolate ice cream (new light enters the vessel ..so to speak 🙂
The child’s eyes light up, everything is new and wonderful, then Mom takes it away but now the child has had an impression of that new light and now it is gone, but she remembers it. Before when she was smaller, she only had an impression of peas and carrots, that was her life, now her vessel has increased and she has a bigger yearning, for more.
There is also something special in the study called the light that reforms and we can also take an example from the little child who sits on the floor of the living room while all of the adults around her speak and while she makes sounds and doesn’t comprehend what is going on, but just by the influence of the upper ones, she slowly starts to be affected and slowly starts to enter their reality first with one word or one reactive expression and then more and more until she grows and stabilizes herself in their world.
In short, the study is working correctly on you.
Seth@KabU
Miryam,
Sometimes in the Hebrew language, the language of kabbalah, you will even hear the Creator’s pronoun as plural. And sometimes when referring to the shechina for instance or the torah, it is referred to as feminine.
Of course there is no gender to the upper, simple light.
From our perspective, the perspective of the lower ones, everything is according to how we perceive it.
Also in our world, there is one person who you call mom. someone else calls her lover, another person calls her daughter.So to your question, remember that a bestowing force is referred to as male and all receiving force is referred to as female.
Think of it more like proton and electron for now instead of man and woman.
We want to get used to the laws and forces that are operating around us and in us without confusing ourselves with characters from this world.
Later we will begin to understand the connection between things.
Seth@KabU
Hi,
I had a question about the first question from the knowledge check, in which it was stated that, “There is no reality outside a person’s perception.” Could you please briefly elaborate on this concept? I was initially under the impression that we needed to develop a sixth sense to perceive in a more holistic, spiritual way; however, that did not discount the notion of a true, objective reality and natural laws of the universe that we live in.
Mira,
Suppose I am a farmer and I need rain. For 5 generations my family worked this land and we count on the rain during this season.
Suppose there is a young couple who will be getting married next weekend and now that it rained last week, the flowers are in bloom, but if it rains next weekend, it will ruin the celebration. So you have two groups of people who are not at war with each other, they don’t even know each other, but when each checks the weather they are hoping for opposite things and when it shows it may rain, one gets a sick feeling and the other gets a feeling of joy and when it shows it may not rain, the other gets a sick feeling and the other ones are happy.
Everything in our life is like this. We are building a reality based on our desires, what we see, what we feel, it is all based on the quality of our desires. As you wrote above, all of reality is filled with endless upper abundance, as you called a true objective reality, but we have no way to feel that. According to our vessels we feel it, and we don’t feel it at all yet.
All we feel is according to the vessels, the upper light does not change. By definition, it does not change.
Seth@KabU
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