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Hi Gianni, in the work in the ten, how do I balance annulment and bestowal and Connection so it serves the purpose of the ten, ?
I have to annul myself to such an extent that I’m able to connect with them. Otherwise, if I’m still big, filled with my opinion and my importance, then I simply don’t connect with them. If I connect with them, from within that connection, I can annul myself further, where annulment comes to mean that I serve them. Because I connected with them, I feel them, their desires that are opposite to mine even, and I serve those desires, help them to be realized in fact.
Dear Gianni,
We are a ten, made up of what used to be two separate tens that recently merged into one. Do you have any practical advice on what we can do to come to real unity and integrate into each other seamlessly? What should each of us do individually and what should we do together as a ten?
Thank you ❤️
Dear Gianni, thanks for the answer on annulment ( Here is a follow up question (I put it in the wrong thread, sorry, so here it is again): Your answer was bringing me a bit closer… yet I feel it’s still confusing so I hope it’s ok if I add another bit to this question: It seems like outwardly annulment can easily be done in the ten… „let the friends choose first, let the friends decide, I follow the group, let them speak , not me“… and I feel this could be annulment , but it could also be laziness or withdrawl … it could even be refusing to serve the friends, because maybe they would need my help or input. Or maybe they would wish to bestow on me, and by not showing myself, I am not allowing them to do that. So… what should lead my actions? How do I truly annul and not withdraw myself? How do I do these actions for my friends, and not for myself? What needs to be my intention in any of these actions, so it can be truly beneficial for my friends?
Thank you:)
There is always a negative side, a way that the ego knows how to steal your advancement. Annulment is always against my Will to Receive. It’s very active and non-relaxing. The fetus has great work to be annulled all the time and not be aborted. Sometimes it could be to follow others in how they connect, sometimes I need to push them so they’ll connect. Neither is a state of rest. If I’m nullifying my Will to Receive, I always feel it in disagreement with the act.
Dear Gianni, thanks for the answer. It’s bringing me a bit closer… yet I feel it’s still confusing so I hope it’s ok if I add another bit to this question: It seems like outwardly annulment can easily be done in the ten… „let the friends choose first, let the friends decide, I follow the group, let them speak , not me“… and I feel this could be annulment , but it could also be laziness or withdrawl … it could even be refusing to serve the friends, because maybe they would need my help or input. Or maybe they would wish to bestow on me, and by not showing myself, I am not allowing them to do that. So… what should lead my actions? How do I truly annul and not withdraw myself? How do I do these actions for my friends, and not for myself? What needs to be my intention in any of these actions, so it can be truly beneficial for my friends?
Thank you:)
Hi Gianni, in today’s “Sunday meeting with Friends”, we read ” Study of the Ten Sefirot – Inner Observation – Vol. 1, Part 1″ :
“One” indicates a single evenness. “Unique” implies that everything that extends from Him, all these multiplicities, are in Him as single as His self. “Unified” shows that although He performs the multiple operations, one force performs all these, and they all return and unite in the form of One. Indeed, this one form swallows all the forms that appear in His operations.
my question is: this seems to imply that the creature and the creator are ONE. I thought we do NOT know the essence of the creator, we only attain our relationship with him, if so, how did we conclude Him and us are ONE? I am probably not understanding this in a right way.
thank you!
It’s simply that this doesn’t speak about His Essence nor does anything else in the wisdom of Kabbalah, except when they mention Atzmuto (His essence), which they only bring up here and there to explain that they’re never going to talk about that, so if it seems that they are, be assured that they are not. They only speak of the names of the Creator, meaning the forms in which we attain Him.
thank you to clarify that. if we do not even know his essence, how did we conclude we are one? equivalence of form? but we do not have that equivalence of form yet. even when we do in the future, he is still the creator and we are the creature. what am I not understanding or missing?
thank you for being so patient with us.
Helen
We don’t need to deal with His Essence, and we can’t.
We need to reach Equivalence of Form with our first spiritual degree – the minimal equivalence in which He can be revealed. then, we will attain one of His names (but not His essence, and many degrees of further equivalence with Him stand before us, before that, anyway).
We attain Him only by way of “by Your actions, we know You,” meaning through Equivalence of Form. But just because we reach this, doesn’t mean He stops being the Creator or that we become the Creator. No. He remains the Creator, we remain the Created Being, who was created to reach equivalence, called adhesion, with the Creator.
something just clicked in me. is this Oneness referring to his form/quality, which is pure bestow, despite in our perception there are so many different qualities in opposites forms in this world as well as how we perceive him. when we acquire his quality, we will be becoming one with him in quality but we remain as different entities, he is the creator, we are the creature. am I close this time?
thanks
Helen
You have to learn about this by being in the quality of oneness. And that will be called attaining Him. You attain Him, Equivalence with your first degree of oneness, discover His quality in this, and that’s called attaining Him. You attain Him with your Kli [vessel], in this way.
In the meantime, we feel division, the opposite of oneness, due to the multiplicity of desires to receive in us. But later, we have only one desire: to bestow.
I am still trying to understand oneness. is it like the Creator includes all reality (and us), that is the Oneness. but the creature is only part of that Oneness. He is the whole oneness? But I thought the creature didn’t exist in the creator before he created it. the creation is existence from absence.
so what is this ONE referring to? and what’s the creature’s relationship to the ONE?
thanks
Helen
Dear Gianni,
Restriction is obviously me not doing what I want to do, but is it also me doing what I don’t want to do?
Thank you! ❤️
Concerning the scrutiny of a discernment if it is of Kedusha or of Klipa in Shamati 58 is written:
“(…) the scrutiny is in the reason. In Kedusha, there is reason, and in the Sitra Achra there is no reason, since another god is sterile and does not bear fruit.”
I understood that the reason, meaning doubt and intention to receive for self, comes from Sitra Achra and is about to go above it choosing faith – then the state is pure, Kedusha – meaning choosing ‘no-reason’. So how can reason be in Kedusha? And do we actually aim the state of Sitra Achra being in faith that it is the state of Kedusha?
Or does it mean that the reason in Kedusha is a real one and the reason in Sitra Achra is not real, so thats why it’s called ‘no reason’?
(I can’t believe) I have to ask even what is reason!?
All the real reason is in spirituality. It’s as if we give up on reason and go into something unreasonable. Instead, one is typically in something so embarrassingly unreasonable, below reason or within beastly reason that there’s going to be great laughter about it later on. And leaving this is what he calls reason and thinks that he might – god forbid – depart from into something “unreasonable.” So, it’s a big question if one is even within reason yet, to have reason to go ‘above’, in the first place. Reason comes from the spiritual degree, the reason of the Torah it’s called. Then we have to go above reason. For now, we have to do something like it – to go against our will to receive, and so on, but we’re not already in reason nor above reason. I know we speak this way, in our aspiration, but it’s not precisely our state.
Hi Gianni, several of us in our Ten would like to learn more about Ten Sefirot since we have been taking Seth’ class on
“Introduction to The Study of the Ten Sefirot”. We know you have a class called the Blueprint of Creation, and in Arvut there is ongoing live class by Rav, there are probably a lot of other materials we can use as well. We would like to ask your guidance on how we should approach this together so we can make it meaningful but not overwhelming.thanks
Helen
We always say study where your heart desires. But I think if you want to learn the whole system quickly and then open it up more deeply from there, the Blueprint of Creation course does that. But there’s immeasurably more depth of feeling in Rav’s lessons, and the understanding ultimately comes from the feeling, the Reforming Light working. I would always rather learn from Rav. I think the Light teaches and the Light in Rav’s lessons is something serious. Those lessons are likely to require more time though, like a minimum of 5-10x the time. In the end, you have to learn this stuff from a higher source. The question is whether, in the middle, you want the Blueprint of Creation course as an on-ramp.
Aside from just the Light working, you want to sort of have these matters sit in your box, as a system. This way, you can orient yourself better toward, say, The Study of the Ten Sefirot, and so your demand for the Light may be stronger during the study.
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