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I can not be comfortable with this space at all … I do not feel good about your teaching method … I need to communicate with my teacher and establish a cordial relationship with him. I do not intend to compare Bnei Baruch with any other organization, but in other organizations and chabad I could at least communicate privately with my professors. No one in your organization talks about reading Torah, and I have never seen Zohar commentary. Worst of all is the language barrier that has confused me. Now I do not know where I am.
Hey Asher,
It’s certainly not for everybody. If a person feels like this is something that speaks and makes them feel like this is what they’ve been looking for, then they’ll stay, but if there’s no such sensation then it’s just another stop on your path to finding what feels right for you.
Best of luck,
Chris
Shalom.
Unfortunately, I did not understand much of most of the answers given by the officials and teachers on this page. I do not know how I should share my problems with the organization and its teaching method and get a clear answer !? Sorry most of your answers are not understandable dear teachers. The problem is that you do not answer the questions clearly and correctly. Now I do not know what I am doing !? Please save me from confusion
Good Day Instructors,
I was reading a few articles today and noticed a reference to “Poem of Unification” but cannot seem to find this source.
There is reference to it at least in Shamati 7, Baal HaSulam Letter 645, 52, Rav’s blog, Intro to the Book of Zohar and Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot. Does this piece I search for have another name? Please advise.
Thank you very much.
Hey Marz,
As far as I can see and recall, this is only a reference in some of Rabash’s and Baal HaSulam’s writings like you said. It may have another name, but I’m not aware of it. It’s not a source we have in our library. Sorry!
Chris
Hi Humehr,
There are other methods that use the source texts of the wisdom of Kabbalah but it’s according to their own interpretation as opposed to KabU which follows the method of Baal HaSulam, passed down to his student and son Rabash who is our teacher’s teacher who has now passed this method down to his students.
The lineage here is important since the method has been passed from teacher to student for millennia. The authentic method interprets the Kabbaliststic texts as instruction for correcting the shattered pieces of the soul which currently relate to one another with an egoistic force. The wisdom of Kabbalah is a method to correct this state and return the soul to one whole by correcting the force of connection between them to the quality of love and bestowal.
Thanks!
Chris
These two organizations have had problems with each other since the creation of Adam Kadmon until today, and each of them only recognizes its own methods and teachings and is right! For example, this dispute over red strings or Kabbalah water is never going to be settled between the two organizations! And of course, there are many other cases that do not fit in this space …
Hey Asher,
A person studies where their heart is. If it doesn’t speak to the heart then they can’t use the method. This method is about building importance for life that exists on a different level, a higher reality. Our given nature does not find that reality attractive. Either we start working at how to reach that level or we continue on the level of existence of the ego, without trying to acquire a higher level of nature that’s ruled by the quality of bestowal – the driving force behind the development of all of nature and especially humanity as a whole – or we continue the natural path of being led by the carrot or the stick, whichever way the ego dictates. If we’re content and happy on this level, then there’s certainly nothing that would draw a person away from that.
Thanks,
Chris
Hello all,
Im just sitting here contemplating my experiences in my life up to this point and wondering how they fit into Kabbalah. So far what I have learned about the wisdom of Kabbalah has been fascinating, compelling, thought provoking. However, I have come to some of these realizations through other means that also have not relied on my five senses. Is there some overlap between methods of all spiritual practices? This is what I have always found with religion. Its different ideologies trying to explain the same story. My practices with deep meditation, psychedelic substances, sensory deprivation have all seemingly granted me access to some form of other dimension that is separate from the senses and physical world. I am just curious how the wisdom of Kabbalah would interpret these experiences.
Hi Donals,
Any other method would have just explored more aspects of your egoistic reality which will inevitably end with the same kind of unfulfillment since we were created to discover and be fulfilled by spiritual pleasures and not egoistic ones. Undoubtedly those experiences in other methods would have been necessary to prepare you to march on the path that brings you closer to the quality of bestowal. Sometimes those paths become attractive again and you find there’s still more there to explore. In this case, a person is taken off the path and sent to wander around a bit more, but ultimately, everyone has a point in the heart that must be realized.
Thanks!
Chris
From a Kabbalistic perspective would you say that the following video accurately depicts the search for fulfillment in egoistic desires and the inevitable subsequent realization that they are empty (i.e. can never fulfill one lastingly)?
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPBtzjFnhvk25cSHTMs_NojLOiyfDgxg_dG34uL
If so, then what is the purpose of the egoistic pursuit for a Kabbalist or somebody who is just starting to learn about Kabbalah? Is it only to realize over and over again that the egoistic desires cannot be fulfilled? Is there a shortcut, that is, are we somehow able to realize that a new (stronger) egoistic desire won’t bring fulfillment anyway and so it is not worth pursuing it or do we have to tangibly experience the inherent emptiness of ALL our egoistic desires?
Hi Niklas,
Good question. No there’s no shortcut, there’s only hastening of the process – how quickly can you go through the states you necessarily need to go through. There’s no way to become “big” to be able to climb the wall. The process is that you become big, take a step over the wall, and then encounter the next wall which is higher, but this is what builds in us the correct emotional impressions and we work through them consciously. We’re supposed to experience every detail of reality and on the path towards opening up the infinite reality which is currently concealed, we need to discover our complete disconnection to it first.
Thanks!
Chris
Thanks.
At first I was mad at this reply, but now I am happy.
It is both shit and reassuring. Shit because nothing can be skipped (although I often sought out uncomfortable situations voluntarily because I felt that I need to go through it anyway). Reassuring because it means that you can’t really go wrong. But then again, we shouldn’t linger too much on this, lest the path of suffering needs to push us from behind again.
Well of course, there’s definitely reassurance in it. It’s really a matter of relinquishing control. The faster you can discover this in your own senses that you’re completely governed from above. In the moment it feels that we have to act and make some decision, which is something we have to feel, while the next moment we look back and see it wasn’t me that acted there.
It’s not that the path is rewarding to the ego, at first it is, but the more you advance the pleasure evolves from wanting the “sweetness”, the pleasure for the ego – to wanting “truth” – no matter what the ego prefers, you’re fulfilled by coming closer to truth. The ego is important here since without it you wouldn’t have this discernment. So it’s a great and necessary component to direct us correctly on the path. Eventually, you’re able to have the strength to only acknowledge how you “feel” and rise above what feels good or bad and focus where the heart is aimed, and “to who do I want to bring pleasure” becomes the intention and this is already a great help from above.
Best of luck,
Chris
Thank you very much!
I might have had some experiences with this “seeking of truth above pleasure and pain”. It is the sweet opening of something outside me that comes, when I direct my thoughts towards bringing pleasure to others. It is not really that it is rewarding per se. It is more like “doing it is enough for the sake of doing it”. In that, everything is already good.
Currently, my life is blowing up (positively) on all imaginable fronts. Dude! Currently, I am just working off my task list from morning to night. I work according to the following priorities:
1. Getting the new (amazing) job (neither praised nor condemned)
2. Study a bit of Kabbalah each day
3. Everything elseThank you very much and I am very excited to soon join you in the Graduate Environment.
Unfortunately, I cannot edit my original post. Here is the original version: https://youtu.be/HUngLgGRJpo
Hi Humehr,
There are principles you can take from the path here and apply them at home, it certainly helps to promote “peace” at home, but since your spiritual work is really with those who have the same goal and they aren’t part of your family with whom you have some natural connection with already where you need to work with these “strangers” to your soul and bring them closer to reveal the Creator, there’s no real place for spiritual work with those in your house.
The principles are also things you would hear about if you were to go to a therapist or counselor where they’d tell you how to relate to them and how to keep the peace and work through issues. Things like lowering yourself, listening, giving an example for how to do those things etc..
Thanks!
Chris
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