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    • #280120
      Dan
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      the only true love is the unconditional love that fishy love is just makeing buisness like you give me this i give you this in return if you don’t do that for me i will not give you that but really to experienc the state of un conditional love is sacred therefore it must becdefended at all cost and to do that i think anger is quite useful jut like an imunesystem takes away disease one should take away from the space wich is not recipocateing the peace love beauty harmony one creates to redirect energys to keep a clean tidy enviorment for growth of the state of harmony one cant accept every color to create a masterpiece of art then it woulnt create feeling of appriciation all spices in a soup woun’t make it taste good

    • #222083
      Lu Lu
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      Hi Gianni,

      No question at this time, I’m simply trying to piece it together. Even with all the analogies and explanations, I’m still so confused so I will move along and perhaps it will all come together for a better understanding.   Thank you.

    • #219075
      johan semloh
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      “In the wisdom of Kabbalah, the effort is in one place, the result is in another.” My question is, when efforts in this lower world produce results in the upper world, is there a reciprocal effect where resulting changes naturally occur in the initial lower world of effort?

      • #280305

        No action in this world can result in something in the Upper World, except for a deficiency/request. If the request is correct then there is a response. Other than that, we can run, jump to the ends of the universe…no matter what it is it will be along the “path of pain”. That is, the predetermined suffering path which leads ultimately to the same prayer but after a long time and severe suffering. The correct request is the one that is the result of attempting to connect to reality correctly – that is, through a ten, the corrected constellation of others as described by the RABASH.

      • #219415

        Hi Jonah,

        Everything in our world is a result of the Thought of Creation. We’re just realizing one by one the inevitable stages required to bring about the end state in that Thought. And so there is no choice, only a sensation that we’re choosing, that the past is the cause of the current state, but it’s not so. The future causes the current state, and the next and the next state. All we can do is bring about the next state more quickly and pleasantly. By starting to bring about these states that are in the cannon we start feeling we’re participants in the Plan, that although the teacher is gibing assignments we’re not drowning in them but nailing each one with relative ease at a brisk clip towards our good future.

    • #190419
      Rivka
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      Lots of questions that I’m sure will be answered eventally.

    • #190219
      Seraphim
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      There isn’t a question I don’t have so … yeah …

    • #184770
      Eliyahu
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      When it says that the reflected light in the first Partzuf after the first restriction was 20% of the direct light, does that mean that Nefesh entered Keter and the rest remained empty, or does it mean that Nefesh goes all the way down do Malchut but that every light from Yechida to Nefesh has each 20% of the original amount of the direct light?

      • #184784

        No, there aren’t such discernments here. We don’t yet have the Inverse Relation of Lights and Vessels that you’re referring to, and the Light is just the Simple Upper Light that fills the whole reality. In Phase 1 it’s the Light of Hochma, according to the Desire of Hochma. In Bina it’s the Light of Bina, or Hassidim. In Zeir Anpin it’s a reawakening of that Desire of Hochma and accordingly it again receives the Hochma Light in 20% and the Light of Hassidim in 80%.

        Re-reading your question I see you were not asking about the Four Phases of Direct Light, but after the Restriction. So there we do have the Inverse Relation of Lights and Vessels. What confused me was the 20%/80% part of the question because those discernments relate to Tifferet of the Four Phases. These were the numbers Rabash gave as an example, even though it’s not exactly 20%, but in reality it is much less of the Light of Hochma. The numbers aren’t as important as the concept that we’re using the Kelim of Phase 1 just a bit, and the rest effectively remains mostly empty.

        • #184887
          Eliyahu
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          Ok I want to rephrase in order to clarify, I hope i don’t sound too repetitive:

          We use all 5 Kelim here from Keter to Hochmah in the Rosh, but everywhere just a little bit, so that the whole sum of NRNHY is just like for example 20% of what it could be, if the Masach was not so soft as it is at the moment.

          Am I getting closer?

        • #184890

          There’s no “little bit” in spirituality. It’s all or nothing. Regarding the Kashiut (hardness) of the Screen, it must be able to reject all the Lights to even begin working spiritually. But regarding the Aviut (coarseness) of the Screen, meaning which desires I can use, I could use these desires but not be able to use those desires. But I can’t use half a desire, 20% of a desire.

          The place there are these percentages, which Rabash used just as an example, is in Tifferet of the 4 Phases of Direct Light. But that is a whole state. Circular. It is not divided up like Partzufim are later on. It’s just that it is composed of the Vessels from Phase 1 (Hochma) as well as Vessles of Phase 2 (Bina). So it is actually fulfilled if you want to know the truth. It’s fulfilled with Hochma a bit, but the majority is the fulfillment of Hassidim. Maybe forget thee percentages and think of it as a whole state that has this particular character of fulfillment primarily in Hassidim, with a bit of Hochma.

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