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- April 21, 2020 at 6:43 pm EDT #28801
Tony Kosinec- KabU InstructorModeratorAsk anything about week 3 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.
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- August 27, 2024 at 12:48 pm EDT #385775VerenaParticipant
1. I am understanding that there are many predetermined factors in the lives of human beings; and that suffering in terms of experiencing man-made or non-man-made desasters desastersare part of the soulś path of development. Do I get it right, that all of this is meant to be? All of this is pre-determined ? And that this is a way more interconnected process than one would think? After all, just thinking of what humans are doing to humans… each of the acts will affect many more than the just directly involved individuals. And is it right, that in this interconnectivity, each act happening t o „one“ human is something that happens in order for all souls to develop?
2. I am wondering what could be a rational for people who are actually suffering? Especially, when they have been on their way to gain spiritual understanding. I feel itś a really fragile spot, and I am wondering how to help bridge that subjective experiences of the cruelty of life on the one handside, and the spiritual worthiness in those situations of real hardship o the other. Is it a BUT?… it is true pain in this life, BUT it has a spiritual purpose? It feels hardly possible just to tell them „this is because he wants it so“. I would be afraid that it would drive them even further away from any perception of light. What would be a rational to help those involved understand to bridge this gap between their subjectively felt pain, and its possible spiritual purpose? Would it be the message „there are no victims in spirituality, but it can feel like it being human“? And would it be correct to say that?
- August 27, 2024 at 3:43 pm EDT #385790Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Verena,
1. Yes, you can say that.
2. We suffer because of our uncorrected egoistic nature. The process of development is to help us to reach that conclusion so then we would be willing to correct that egoistic nature.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2011/06/how-can-we-justify-the-creator/
Keep in mind that if you are to share some of what you’re learning with others, this needs to be done in a VERY gentle way, not to violate the rule that “there is no coercion in spirituality”. And if your explanation turns into an argument, then it will ultimately harm you and weaken you on the path. This is why the sages say that “silence is a fence for wisdom”.
So its best not to start preaching this wisdom to others. If you think someone might be interested in it, the safest thing is simply to give them a link to the course or one of the books written for beginners.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2008/11/only-people-with-the-point-in-the-heart-can-feel-that-kabbalah-is-the-salvation/
Albert @ KabU
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- August 26, 2024 at 1:39 pm EDT #385696joeParticipant
In my opinion, it would be helpful if the instructors occasionally were more specific. E.g. In instance [Y] on [date], an [incident] occurred and when I consciously considered the Light I [X].
- August 26, 2024 at 2:51 pm EDT #385702Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the feedback. Keep in mind that we’re still in the fundamentals, learning the basic knowledge of this wisdom. The practical application of what we’re learning will be covered in great depth in the advanced semester.
Albert @ KabU
- July 30, 2024 at 10:39 am EDT #382872Enrique RojasParticipant
Cómo puedo encaminar de antemano mis instintos primarios básicos (alimentos, sexo/reproducción y búsqueda de refugio) para sintonizarlos con la naturaleza del Creador y no tener que confrontar el sufrimiento que produce dejarme guiar en ellos por mi naturaleza egoísta?
- July 31, 2024 at 12:17 pm EDT #382941Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
google translation of the question:
How can I direct my basic primal instincts (food, sex/reproduction, and seeking shelter) in advance to align them with the nature of the Creator and not have to confront the suffering that comes from being guided by my selfish nature?
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Hi Enrique,
Kabbalah only deals with our desire for spirituality. Regarding the rest of our desires, Kabbalah does not deal with these things. Our corporeal desires don’t have any relation to spirituality, so each person can arrange these desires however is most comfortable for them (of course within the context of the law and without harming others).
In practice, we don’t need to suppress our corporeal desires or live a life of poverty. We only need to work on making the desire for spirituality the most important thing. Then naturally the rest of our desires will fall into place. For example, it’s like with an artist that is so involved in his art, that he fulfills all the rest of his desires out of necessity so he can quickly return to his passion. Same with us, when spirituality is the most important desire, then we will be able to properly relate to all the rest of our corporeal desires in a balanced way.
Albert @ KabU
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- July 22, 2024 at 10:08 am EDT #382040Renata KlemParticipant
I understand that the desires to be corrected are situations presented to us by the Creator, and if we put ourselves in front of these situations trying to understand what He wants from us with this situation, this already brings the correction of this desire. In conclusion, I don’t need to know what the desire itself is, but I need to question myself. Is that correct?
- July 22, 2024 at 12:22 pm EDT #382056Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Renata,
Yes, that’s part of the process.
We learn from the Kabbalists that every single moment comes to us directly from the Creator, this is called “there is none else besides Him”. Furthermore, they also say that He is the “good that does good”. Meaning that every moment He is sending us nothing but goodness. But why then don’t we see this in our world? Why don’t we feel every single moment as good?
It’s because our egoistic nature is opposite to the Creator. This opposite nature inverts the Creator’s goodness into something bad. It’s just like multiplying numbers: a positive times a negative equals negative.
So as long as we remain within this egoistic nature, we will continue to see and feel more bad things in the world. But if we correct our nature to be similar to the Creator’s nature, then we will reveal the true reality in which only goodness exists, and our previous egoistic state would appear as nothing more than a dream.
These scrutinies are part of the process of correction and of asking the Creator to correct our nature.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2011/01/praying-in-order-to-change/
Albert @ KabU
- July 22, 2024 at 2:16 am EDT #382015BrandenParticipant
Each of the 600,000 shards contains 613 desires within it. Is this a literal number? How does this relate to 7 billion people on the planet? Does each person contain 613 desires or are these distributed across multiple people? What is the relationship between one particular set of 613 desires and another set? In other words, why did Adam HaRishon split in such a way into these 600,000 shards?
- July 22, 2024 at 12:29 pm EDT #382058Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Branden,
The split makes it easier for all of us to reach out common corrected state. It like the difference between one person lifting 1000 pounds or 1000 people lifting 1 pound each. In other words, the bigger the split, the easier correction is for all of us.
As for the numbers themselves, numbers in Kabbalah are not talking about quantity, rather they are measurements of quality. 600,000 for example represents the strength of the spiritual desire after it’s been fully corrected. So essentially all of humanity is included in this number.
Check out this blog post to see how this number is derived: https://laitman.com/2010/09/love-and-hatred-of-600000-souls/
Albert @ KabU
- July 21, 2024 at 7:41 pm EDT #381981Enrique RojasParticipant
De qué manera y mediante cuáles prácticas, preceptos y procedimientos puedo apartarme del camino del dolor y avanzar, en cambio, por el camino de la luz? A qué puedo recurrir para lograr ese cambio de vía?
- July 21, 2024 at 10:50 pm EDT #381999Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Google translation of the question: How and through what practices, precepts and procedures can I turn away from the path of pain and instead move forward on the path of light? What can I use to achieve this change of path?
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Hi Enrique,
The path of light means that instead of moving forward by suffering, we use the light to help us to advance forward. We extract the light primarily through the Kabbalistic studies, where we read about our future states of connection, bestowal, and love and aspire to be in those states. Our aspiration for those future states is what draws the light upon to help us reach those states.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2013/02/sunbathing-in-the-rays-of-the-reforming-light/
Albert @ KabU
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