[Pincus]

Let me tell you.

in essence you are right, and all the work we do as the chosen people is to attain the upper worlds while we are still in this world which is true, and you explanation of what prayer is, is special.

but to try hard to cut out religion of it is wrong and you will not succeed, it’s embedded in religion no matter how you’l dress it.

For instance when it come to explain the biblical stories as something that didn’t happen in this world, just forces, Abraham represents this, and Moses this, it’s all true, but nevertheless the stories have all played out in this world, to say different is like someone will say in thousands of years and some are already telling it today, that the Holocaust didn’t happen, there was a war of forces between the Germans and the Jews but no one actually died in this world.

dose it sound familiar?

[Pincus]

This is a very good answer.

but when quoting Rabbi Akive why half quote, rabbi Akive was Jewish and was practicing Judaism to an extent that he has given away his life to only learn Torah, he was killed by the romans for doing just that.

While the saying “love the other as you love yourself” is considered the soul of the Mitzvot the physical actions are the body of it, and you must have both you will not get anywhere in spirituality without it.

And in Torah you don’t have to replace any pre-perceptions, because both can be the truth, it will depend from where you are coming and your level of attainment and to which level you want to get.

but trying to portray Kabbala as a free range is not right, it’s not free range, it’s a Jewish wisdom and you will not change it with whatever you going to say.

[Pincus]

<p style=”direction: ltr; text-align: left;”>But as you said the Torah is Kabbala written by Kabbalist’s for Kabbalist’s by instructions of the upper force so one cannot say I will not do the Mitzvot, Because all what He wants is the heart only, and the physical actions doesn’t matter.</p>
Yes Kabbala predates religion, but Judaism is Kabbala, and in order to change what’s in your heart you most do the physical Mitzvot it’s regather a short cut of getting to this, as well as follow your heart from the will to receive with the intention to receive, to the will to receive with the intention to bestow.

And when doing the physical Mitzvot just because your following instructions of the upper force without adding your own will, this seems to be the best way of reaching this, rather then coming up with your own ways of getting to this, and saying that Kabbala predates religioun.

[Pincus]

According to the wisdom of Kaballa which you call the authentic wisdom of Kaballa, where dose Torah and Mitvoth come in.

[Pincus]

To understand what we are doing in this world without any religious dressings.

[Pincus]

In order to have to work to attain it, and the shame of being a receiver would vacate thus allowing us to receive the what the creator wants to bestow on us.

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