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  • Eliyahu,
    Yes, it looks like the light is clothed on the degree of Nefesh first and then Ruach, Neshama, Chaya and Yechida.
    But in this diagram Tony is not talking about Keter and Malchut, you are mixing two things here.
    We didn’t get to the Rosh, Toch and Sof.
    All of those things exist in here, but to study this correctly follow just the details we are studying it will be a much quicker and straightforward way to absorb the material.
    This wisdom is infinite, at any moment you can bring up anything from anywhere, but we can’t advance like that in a systematic way.
    Seth@KabU

    Eliyahu,
    Yes, it looks like the light is clothed on the degree of Nefesh first and then Ruach, Neshama, Chaya and Yechida.
    But in this diagram Tony is not talking about Keter and Malchut, you are mixing two things here.
    We didn’t get to the Rosh, Toch and Sof.
    All of those things exist in here, but to study this correctly follow just the details we are studying it will be a much quicker and straightforward way to absorb the material.
    This wisdom is infinite, at any moment you can bring up anything from anywhere, but we can’t advance like that in a systematic way.
    Seth@KabU

    Anthony,
    You are right.  We will always remain a will to receive.  That is the only creation that the Creator made.
    And while we exist as animals on the animal degree, we live instinctively and we don’t feel our connection to the whole network, to the whole system.  But as the light shines on us and we start to discover our true nature, we feel that we are opposite from the Creator and when we advance more, we feel that we don’t want to be opposite from the Creator, we want to bestow like He bestows.
    So the Creator gives us a desire to receive and we, through our efforts in the group and with the books and the study, we build a desire to bestow.  It is something novel and new.  You are right again, in this world two opposites cannot exist together.  In spirituality this problem does not exist, everything is one in spirituality, above time, space and motion.
    Seth@KabU

    Anthony,
    You asked all of the correct questions.
    How can it be that from the perfect Creator came something so imperfect, something that is the cause of all of the ruin?
    This is a perfect question and will lead you towards the correct answer.
    First, who am I who sees reality like this.  Am I seeing all of reality?
    And what is the purpose of creation?  For example when I see a green banana, I don’t call the banana bad and bitter, I say that this banana is not ripe yet.  When it is ripe it will be sweet and with humanity, maybe it is at the stage of the green banana, maybe it is bitter and not yet ripe and sweet.
    What do the kabbalists tell us?
    They tell us that the thought of Creation is to create a creature and fill it with endless fulfillment.
    So, if there will be a creature who can receive endlessly, then there needs to be the creation of an endless lack that will later be filled by the endless light.
    Now we are getting somewhere…
    Seth@KabU

    Tiago,
    You are right that it takes time, but not exactly as you said.
    We are not looking to renounce our corporeal desires.
    Kabbalah means to receive.  We want to understand, why do I always feel bad and empty?!
    We receive money, sex, family, honor, but we always return to emptiness.
    This wisdom guides us to live in this world as we must and to build a new perception, a new whole, eternal reality.
    You are correct that our body will not agree to this work.  That is true and that remains.  The body protests and it is correct.
    The body says, I was created in order to enjoy, so I must enjoy.
    And the body is correct.
    So we have been given the awakening of our point in the heart.
    And we know from nature that the small one gets pleasure from serving the big one.  Like we would be happy to carry the bag of a famous person.
    So, when the Creator becomes great in our eyes, it is a great pleasure to do everything for Him.
    So He bestows to the vessel and the vessel bestows to Him and the vessel is in eternal fulfillment and adhesion.

    Seth@KabU

    beth,
    Let’s look at the question from a different angle.
    Imagine that every time I eat a certain food, my body breaks out in hives.
    Now imagine that a doctor gives me a cream to make the hives go down.
    So my body is still reacting to the food, but I’m suppressing it’s reaction.
    It’s not a perfect example, but we need to see that the world we see is a material profection of the inner state of humanity.
    We are in the early stages of our study so it is not clear how do deal with the world outside of me if the cause of everythign I see outside of me is inside of me.  So we learn that we live in this world as usual, we buy insurance, stay healthy, all the conducts of this world.
    And also we are not here studying about the system of nature, by that we bring ourselves into harmony with system and then the system we see outside of us, inanimate, vegetative and animate degrees also come into harmony with us as we ascend.
    Seth@KabU

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