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My question is in context of correct attitude related to a corporeal situation. Situation is significant strained work relationship with another that does not hold same work ethics. Trying to fix using corporeal methods ie. conflict resolution etc. does not change the illusion! So would changing my attitude towards the situation by placing emphasis on the light be a correction for my desires in this situation. Would my desire to experience what the light is offering for the sake of the light and movement towards adhesion be correct desire, attitude, emphasis? Current egoistic desire is to change the other and not myself and this never works!
Joseph,
There are many things to consider here and you will do and learn and there is none as wise as the experienced.
In short, if you can figure out a better way to work according to the customs of work where you live, do it.
Don’t apply your spiritual education to something at work – not now. It will only confuse you and prolong your development.
Actually the correct approach is to seperate the two things so it becomes very clear where is spirituality.
It takes time, it could take years to find where the spiritual action is. We are very confused and make a lot of actions that do not progress us. Of course we are always progressing, but it is unconscious and through many blows.
Figure out how to make a good working environment. If you are police officer and you are shooting at bad guys, so that is a job you shouldn’t expect that a job of chasing criminals will be peaceful. If you have a different kind of work and it’s possible to learn best practices for working together, try. And maybe it’s not possible and you have to change your work situation. You have to try and try and learn. Later you will feel how everything was preparations for spirituality.
And, while you are organizing your corporeal life in a normal, customary, comfortable way, also you need to study kabbalah, study the materials and let the light work on you and format your inner world.
You are at the beginning of the beginning of the path.
Try and let us know how it’s going.
Good luck,
Seth@KabU
Does the shattering of the vessels resemble the Big Bang, or, strictly speaking, does the modern broadly accepted idea of Big Bang flow from Kabbalah, rather than the reverse? “The conclusions of science must agree with the design of the Creator.”
Wendi,
What we perceive as the Big Bang is what we refer to as the moment when out of absence there appeared something.
Later, after the first restriction and the building of the partzufim, sefirot, worlds then we will get to the shattering that you are referring to. It’s all ahead of us. All that we are learning now is all prior to the creation of matter, we are now learning the blueprint of creation, everything that happens in matter extends from this plan that we are learning now.
Seth@KabU
Hello,
Given that “there is none else besides Him,” I am curious about experiences we commonly refer to as “coincidence” and/or “synchronicity.” Do these two concepts fit in with the teaching of Kabbalah? Do the Creative Forces use coincidental or synchronistic events to get our attention or communicate in some way?
Thank you,
Dyrk
Dyrk,
Here’s a blog post from Rav’s blog that addresses your question. Rav’s blog is a great resource.Question: Won’t humanity reach the recognition and the revelation as to how the world is arranged and how the different forces operating in it are arranged up until the very last moment of its evolution? Is it our eternal fate to live in such a mess, wars and outbursts of desires?
Answer: There is no mess and no coincidence. We are in a very accurate, rigid, and deterministic system. Everything is arranged in a clear and accurate manner without any defects or flaws.
There are no concepts such as “as if,” “suddenly,” or “approximately,” etc. The more we learn about nature according to different sciences, the more clearly the very accurate unchangeable laws are revealed to us. We divide and classify our knowledge in different fields, but, in fact, there are no different sciences like chemistry, physics, etc, in the world around us.
It is only the unknown areas that have not been explored and studied as yet by which we can attempt to clarify things, but it is merely our perception that stems from ignorance. We simply cannot perceive the whole general picture.
Still, if we delve deeper into this issue, we see that nothing in creation happens for no reason, suddenly, as if, or approximately. It is on our part that we see things that way as “one judges according to his own flaws.” If our mind could grasp and penetrate the depths of nature, we could see a magnificent system in which everything exists in perfection. We could actually see what Godliness is and that everything is related to everything on all levels from the top down. The natures of the still, vegetative, animate, and human beings are one in their spiritual and corporeal revelation, and by one movement of my arm, I can move and operate all the worlds. This is how it is all built. There is no event that can remain unfelt and not affect the whole system.
https://laitman.com/2014/12/coincidence-is-simply-ignorance/
Seth@KabUThank you, Seth, for sharing Rav Laitman’s blog. I routinely encounter events that seem similar in pattern to other events, even relating to lessons taught through Kabbalah. It feels at times that these are “clues” or “confirmations” trying to communicate something. Sometimes I am concerned about klipot and/or becoming confused by the dark forces of ABYA. That was the reason for my question. I will look for more information around this topic through the resources provided.
Many thanks,
Dyrk
Hello Seth and Tony, my question is about the topic of my prayers.
I feel very strong desires in my heart that I pray for. How do I know which one of the desires were placed in my heart by the creator versus the corporeal world?
Attila,
All of reality is only the Creator. Just as we learned about the 4 phases of direct light, the Creator is dressed in these 4 degrees in our world: Inanimate (still), Vegetative, Animate, Speaking (human).
We are asking the Creator to feel that everything comes from Him and we want first to feel that and how can we also come to be bestowing like He is.
Seth@KabU
Hello Seth, or Tony? (Who will respond?)
Thank you , Seth, for all the answers you give. They are written with nice realistic examples f.e: About the question how spiritualism could be described. ‘ with the father and the the sun who are eating a pizza’. I can understand that.
My questions:
1.I wonder why the light had to be shattered in the first place? “And what is called the sin is that the created being could not hold the endless light which caused the shattering.”
2. About ‘Lishma ‘ : It seems difficult being aware of consciousness of detachment. It feels like becoming indifferent or unconcerned, when something serious is happening. (In case of illness)? Not my intention.
Bonnie,
All we need is a creature who can feel endless fulfillment.
That is called the thought of creation, to create a creature and fill it with endless fulfillement.
So how can we get there?
The kabbalists tell us that we are in a field of endless light, everything is contained in that wholeness.
But of course we don’t feel that at all.
It’s not a problem at all to be one with the Creator, that’s not where the problem is.
For example, the sun is so big that over a million Earth’s can fit in the sun.
Now imagine that you are a spark of that sun, you are made up of all the stuff of the sun, you are in there in the sun, but you are completely one with the sun, you don’t feel yourself at all, even though you are one with the sun, there is no sense of you, no sense of the power of the sun, nothing.
So in order to come to feel exactly where we are, which is contained completely in the Upper Light of the Creator (of which there is no comparison to the sun or anything else we can imagine, it is something beyond “boundaries”, called Ein Sof (without end)…in order to feel that, we were created opposite that, from that extends many operations and processes, one of them is called the shattering.As for Lishma, what you are saying is clear, but that has nothing to do with Lishma. You are talking about imagining something about the spiritual sensation with the corporeal mind. Lishma is attainment of the spiritual reality, it is something very active, it means to perceive and feel emotions beyond the material world.
Seth@KabUHi Seth,
In your response to Bonnie’s post concerning Lishma, you state, “it means to perceive and feel emotions beyond the material world.” In your use of the word “emotions,” how do you mean?
It is my understanding and experience that emotions are corporeal events that occur in the physical body in response to physical or mental stimuli due to mechanisms involving the brain’s limbic system and a multitude of bodily chemicals (neurotransmitters, hormones, etc.).
Do you mean that when we achieve Lishma that we will experience emotional states that are familiar to us in this world but prompted by stimulus that is not of this world? If so, what names can be ascribed to the emotions (ie. happiness, sadness, etc.)? If this is not the case, then are there spiritual experiences called “emotions” that are NOT the same as corporeal emotions?
I long to understand this, given that emotional states are commonly referred to in this phase of study. It is said that any unpleasant emotional states can be considered as a good sign to the one seeking Truth through Kabbalah. It is also said that some “pleasures” take people away from spirituality. (Personally, I’ve had far more emotional suffering since first encountering Kabbalah.)
It is important to me at this juncture (or more accurately, I guess I should say it’s important to my ego) to understand how the word “emotion” is intended to be used in the study of Kabbalah. This is because the crux of Kabbalistic teachings involve choices between pleasure and pain.
When it comes to “emotions” in corporeal terms, they (emotions) seem to be “effects” in response to perceptions of events as being pleasurable or painful. At the same time, we can say that we “perceive” certain emotions themselves as pleasurable (joy, happiness, anticipation, excitement, etc.) or painful (sorrow, anger, dread, fright, etc.). It’s kinda like the chicken and the egg dilemma….?!?!?
ANYWAY, I trust I’ve made some sense in presenting my query. Your added input around the topic of Lishma and how it relates to emotional experiences is deeply valued.
Openly,
Dyrk
Dyrk,
What a lovely heartfelt question.
If you are a father, you remember when you taught your children to walk, you move away from them in order for them to take their steps.
But imagine if at that time they had the mind of a teenager and they could respond in languge, “Dad!!! Come back!!! Dad, what are you doing? Don’t you care about me? Why are you going away from me?!”
You of course know that in a few seconds your beloved child will take a step and you are stepping away out of love. And it’s the sorrow of being a parent that we feel our children going through these states, but imagine the alternative, we carry our child around their whole life…well that would be worse, he or she would never develop.
So you and I now have some special wisdom in our hands and you said that since you’ve come to the wisdom of kabbalah you feel more suffering. So try and exercise. Imagine that you (and me and all of us), as you are studying, are drawing surrounding lights on your soul and it is like the parent who is drawing his child forward.
We feel a lot. Let’s try to recognize what is going on.
So there are two things here and you need to be careful with them.
1. This world. Do what you have to do in this world. Work, family, health, etc. If you feel bad because you aren’t dealing with your responsibilities in this world, so, like all other animals we have to live in this world. Don’t confuse the two worlds. Exercise, work, family.
2. Our new spiritual perception. OK, regardless of the details in 1, I also am cultivating a new perception. If I felt calm and everything was fine, then I would not search I would not take a step into a new spiritual realm. So now I feel uncomfortable and it doesn’t matter to me if the feeling comes from my relationships or from the IRS or from the police or from the neighbor. I feel uncomfortable and I start to recognize ahh, someone (the Creator) is sending this to me. Ahhh, I see You! You are doing this, you want me to pay attention to You. Yesterday I felt this as suffering, today I deal with it, it still does not feel good, but I’m starting to recognize that You are directing me to take a step to develop, to understand You.As far as describing the emotions of the spiritual worlds, it’s impossible. Baal HaSulam writes, how did the sages write, Abraham said to so and so, etc..
How did the sages know what Abraham said, saw, etc.
He explains that if one has been to London, one can describe the buildings the smells, etc and anyone who has been to London can recognize that.
Similarly, anyone who attains the degree called Abraham sees and feels everything that is on the degree called Abraham.
Seth@KabUHi Seth,
I appreciate your time and guidance in response to my question.
I’ve heard the parental analogy of teaching a child to walk several times and I can understand that in some fashion as relating to spiritual development. I have also heard Rav Laitman use a similar analogy of a parent seeming not to care for their crying child and being judged by others as harsh; except, what witnesses did not know was that the parent had prevented the child from using a needle to scratch his eye that was itching. (Perhaps you know of that story, too?)
Where I struggle with these analogies is that a toddler learning to walk is not experiencing pain and suffering in that process. They have the presence of their parent who is lovingly encouraging them in a safe environment. The parent does not yell at the child nor expect them to walk barefoot across hot pavement or broken glass. In the case of the child wanting to scratch their itching eye with a sewing needle, anyone can understand removing the needle from the child’s hand; however, no good parent would allow their child to continue suffering with an itching eye. They would want to sooth the child’s eye, especially if due to allergies or poison ivy.
Please understand, my intention is not to oppose these anecdotes as useful in explaining why we endure hardships in life. Rather, I’m wondering why the Creator must prod us with pain rather than draw us with Love?
Perhaps my questioning is mere indication of where I am in my own spiritual development. I can say that I am weary at this point. I’ve been through a lot. I know others who have been through a lot. I can also say that I am forging onward with this study because I am determined to know the Truth or die while striving.
Many kind blessings…
Dyrk
I do not think there is any level of “understanding” for evils perpetrated by Hitler and associates including those who deliberately aided or turned a blind eye to the horrendous acts!
To even suggest that at some level of spirituality there is “understanding” belittles my humanity and the greatness of the ONE.
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