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Is the ‘inborn perception’ the same for a woman as for a man ?
Is the woman starting Kabbalah in the same place as a man ?
Is a woman able to copy the Men Tens successfully?
Although the destination of practicing Kabbalah is One Heart with One Mind, Nature shows us that there are two complimentary functions in the human heart and two biological creatures for perpetuating human existence on earth. Intellectually would there be some difference between biological creatures ?
Hi Julie,
1. Not just between men and women, but each and every person is completely unique and feels the world through his/her uniqueness. As such, it’s impossible to compare how one person feels spirituality with another.
2. We all start equally, buried within our egoistic nature.
3. No one needs to copy another ten, each one needs to work on the connection within their own ten.
4. Each and every one of us is unique and different. It’s like an 8 billion piece jigsaw puzzle where each piece is different from every other piece. Furthermore, each piece is very important, since no one piece can replace any other piece. And if even one piece is missing, the entire puzzle is incomplete.
Albert @ KabU
Mormons have a version of Kabbalah where the Adam Kadmon evolves releasing a group of demiurge type beings to rule their own planet. Or judgement has them going back to do another cycle here. It’s an interesting addition, because it adds an evolutionary element to it. I haven’t read a single book of yours so I don’t know if this is speculated by your own people.
I use my extra sense to connect the dots, and read between the lines. Finding out what is at least possibly censored can help you look for finger prints of that in other works. Right? I came up with my own backwards version doing it alone so long.
My obsession is the beginning of the enlightenment period, and what appears to be an omitted transitional period around that time. I like to research houses like Württemberg, and Stolberg. There’s old French houses, and the destruction of world heritage. There’s a giant taboo around American history in general that I spent years on. I like to call it the labyrinth, but I’ve mostly figured it out.. enough to satisfy my questions anyway.
Im willing to use it to do exegesis, and I’m pretty sure we can link up most of Hinduism, Norse, and South American religions with the Abraham ones. It’s accept there are commonality in the old Gods characteristics cross cultures, and it’s been known it can be done for the stories like the Ramayana, and Exodus. We could finish that work, and it’ll be much easier to make connections with people who know they are equal partners in world heritage. You know? we’re trying to bring everyone in right.
The only thing holding it back is what i consider the falsification of the timeline by Joseph Scaligner. A starting point for correcting the chronology would be testing the validity of Anatoly Fomenkos work. The problem I can see there is nationalism, so maybe we can separate certain still sensitive names.
This is the iceberg known as the Christian prophecy of the great deception. If we can peaceful reveal this to them they’ll finally know where they are in time, and be willing to accept Kabbalah as the final act. Which it is.
How do you guys use Kabbalah?
Hi Daniel,
I’m not an expert in other methods, even others that seemingly teach “Kabbalah”, so I cannot comment on what they do or teach there. But in general, if we want to succeed in Kabbalah (or in any spiritual practice really) we should practice it without mixing in other things into it. Otherwise it’s like following two different GPS systems. One leads you to the goal through the west highway, while the other through the east highway. If you follow both, you’ll just wind up going in circles.
As for people accepting Kabbalah, we learn that “there is no coercion in spirituality”. So we cannot force anyone to study Kabbalah. We should not be pressuring anyone or even trying to convince them to study it. Rather we should give everyone the space they need to develop by themselves until they themselves feel the need for it. So it all depends on the person himself. If a person has an awakened point in the heart, it will push and pull them to find Kabbalah. If not, even if we place it right in front of them and surround it with all sorts of witty arguments, they still wont feel the need to study it.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: http://laitman.com/2008/11/only-people-with-the-point-in-the-heart-can-feel-that-kabbalah-is-the-salvation/
As for how we use Kabbalah, we use Kabbalah as a means to correct our egoistic nature. As a result of this correction, we become similar to the Creator, to His qualities of love and bestowal. As a result of that, we reveal Him in practice, in our lives. All of this follows the law of equivalence of form.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2013/04/everything-is-attained-by-the-equivalence-of-form/
Albert @ KabU
Hi,
In different parts of KabU, I think I ve heard Adam Harishon spoken of both as the original oversoul, and also as a man, 6,000years ago, who first discovered kabbalah. Can you put correct my understanding, please?
Thank youHi Sarah,
It depends on the context, but yes, that term can refer to both.
1. The first Kabbalist was called Adam. He was the first, so he’s called HaRishon (which is Hebrew for: the first).
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2011/06/kabbalah-without-a-trace-of-mysticism/
2. The common soul is also called Adam HaRishon. This is a closed system to which we all belong. It’s like we’re all cells that make up this body of Adam HaRishon. The word Adam comes from the Hebrew verb “Dome”, which means: similar to. In this context, the word Adam is used to show how this system is constantly developing to become similar to the Creator. So essentially all of creation can be called Adam.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2014/05/puzzle-adam-harishon/
Albert @ KabU
Let me confirm if I understood well, Kabbalah studies does not require any physical/character change whilst studying, but, my question, or rather conclusion, is, is it possible to attain any spirituality WITHOUT that affecting your character? As I cannot understand how someone who is learning and attaining spirituality can stay the same way as he/she was before that in this physical world (I am referring only to the emotional and mental state (including the behavior), for sure I don’t expect to grow third leg or something :))
Hi Zorica,
When we say that Kabbalah does not require any physical changes, it’s because most of our spiritual work is internal, and if there is any external expression of this work, we do it only in the Kabbalistic group.
With the rest of the world, obviously we should not be causing harm to anyone nor doing anything illegal there. But aside from that, with the rest of the world we need to act normal, just like everyone else.
As for the changes we undergo, we go through many different changes on the spiritual path. It’s not so much that our character will change, but rather we will begin to relate differently to life. Furthermore, the more we advance we become more sensitive, so our emotions become deeper. Aside from that, our priorities will shift around. At first we will value spirituality much more than corporeality, but then corporeality will once again become important and we’ll need to find a way to balance the two of them.
As for growing a third leg, no we won’t grow a third leg. We also wont become monks and disconnect from this world. Kabbalists continue to exist on the level of this world throughout the entire spiritual ladder of development. So we’ll continue to work, take care of our families, health, etc.
So from the above, we can see that not much changes externally while studying Kabbalah. Internally on the other hand, it’s quite an adventure…
Albert @ KabU
Hi fellow seekers,
I have some questions:
1) As I understand, we are in a world of consequences (branches). Above us is the world of Spirit (roots). As “myself” is a branch in this world of effects, is there my very own counterpart/root in the world of Spirit?
2) Using words from previous Jose post: Tony explains that if we knew and if we were connected with the upper spiritual world, we will be able to direct our destiny, we’ll stop making mistakes, we’ll understand the forces that guide us, we’ll become connected with the light to such a degree that we’ll be able to live life to the fullest and the benefit of all life.
We can therefore influence outcomes in this world caused from the causal world? If so, then Kabbalists can remove any negative consequences/outcome? So, logically then, we would have the power to live lives in perfect fulfillment of pleasure? So, how does Karma or the Will of God fit in?
Thank you,
GeoffHi Geoff, great questions!
1. From the 3 state model presented by Baal HaSulam in the Introduction to the book of Zohar, we learn that the future perfect spiritual state already exists, and we all already exist there as well. The only difference is that our uncorrected ego does not allow us to perceive this yet. So once we correct our egoistic nature, we will reveal the true spiritual reality in which we existed the whole time.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2010/04/revealing-our-true-state/
Introduction to the book of Zohar, from item 14: https://kabbalahmedia.info/en/sources/ALlyoveA
2. The goal of creation is to bring us to that third final corrected state. This goal is predetermined. The path to reach that goal (state #2) is also predetermined. It’s like climbing a ladder, you have no choice but to keep climbing up.
So what influence do we have on this system? We can change the speed at which we climb the ladder and we can also change our attitude to what we are going through.
But if our development requires us to go through something unpleasant, like wars or personal troubles, we have no choice but to go through it?
We have to experience everything that is necessary for our development. But if we experience these things internally, in our spiritual work to correct our ego, we don’t need to experience them externally. For example with war, I can feel internally like I’m at war with my ego in my spiritual work. Or if I don’t perform this spiritual work, this war will appear externally in front of me in this world, and I will need to experience it externally.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2023/01/what-can-we-influence/
Albert @ KabU
Hello Friends,
Tony explains that if we knew and if we were connected with the upper spiritual world, we will be able to direct our destiny, we’ll stop making mistakes, we’ll understand the forces that guide us, we’ll become connected with the light to such a degree that we’ll be able to live life to the fullest and the benefit of all life.
How can we connect with the upper spiritual world? How long it will take to reach the whole of reality? Is this an individual, a group, or an internal effort we need to make? Is there any practical action we can take today to reach spirituality? What does spirituality mean?
Thank you,
Jose L. Espaillat
“Love above reason”
Hey Jose,
First we have to know where it is, maybe even more importantly, where it’s not. It’s not anywhere but between people, others in this world around us. Connecting with the spiritual world is first leaving or disconnecting from the world which conceals that reality. From self-love to love of others.
How long will this take? It just depends on the person, the root of their souls, the effort they contribute, the environment they connect themselves to which ultimately pulls them out of themselves. It’s both an internal and group matter. It’s working together and helping one another.
Practical action? Definitely, attend any gathering or group action, connect yourself to that “blob” of people who want to attain the spiritual goal and don’t let go. Stay adhered to the source texts and don’t leave them. Nothing happens at once. It’s a gradual development, but if you work at this and become more sensitive to the changes , you’ll see you are always advancing, knowing what changed in you and what you need to correct to be aimed at the goal again.
Spirituality is devotion to the Creator. It’s loving Him through love of others. It’s the ability to be above yourself 100% so as not to corrupt the pleasure He wants to bestow to all of creation. It’s the recognition that we are all one creature and existing for myself actually causes me the greatest pain even though it’s my most natural tendency, and always will be. It’s the purpose of creation though, for each of us to attain that level and feel what it is to truly be free, which is what we all want just not all of us feel it yet.
Best of luck, Jose.
Chris
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