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- April 21, 2020 at 6:26 pm EDT #28785
Tony Kosinec- KabU InstructorModeratorAsk anything about week 1 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.
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- October 31, 2021 at 1:50 am EDT #184698RickiParticipant
Hello!
I have a few questions:1. Would it be accurate so say that the descending of light through the 5 worlds, is a refinement of that light?
2. Do thoughts only exists in the corporeal world? Can thoughts be considered a corporeal sensation?
3. If The Eternal is above time, why do i experience time as a flow? Is this a result of there being a barrier/ machsom? If I were to experience life above the barrier, would time feel different compared to what I feel now?
- October 31, 2021 at 2:45 pm EDT #184819Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Ric, great questions!
1. The light does not change. This rule is called “I have not changed my HaVaYaH”. Meaning the light is the same light, it never changes. We change, meaning our desires change, and accordingly we feel the light differently. It’s similar to how electricity is the same electricity but based on what appliance we plug in, we have different uses and results from it. Plug in a heater and you’ll produce warmth, plug in an AC and you’ll get cool air, etc.
So in the descent of the 5 worlds, the desire becomes coarser, more egoistic, as a result it begins to feel the light differently. But the light itself never changes.
2. Thoughts by their very nature are not corporeal, they are not tangible. We feel them inside of ourselves, but we don’t even know where they are coming from. We learn in Kabbalah that our thoughts are the results of our desires. They help us to actualize our desires. Check out the article Shamati 153 for more details: https://kabbalahmedia.info/en/sources/4GW5T0i5?language=en
Furthermore, we feel all of life in our desires. If our desires are still uncorrected, egoistic, then we feel this corporeal world. If our desires are corrected, then within those corrected desires we feel the spiritual world. Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2017/05/what-is-the-soul-4/
3. Time is a sensation within our desire to receive pleasure. If there are no changes in the desire, we would not feel time passing at all. In spirituality, time is not measured by the passing of seconds but rather by the changes that take place over the desire. So if there are no changes in the desire, then time stands still. This is why the Kabbalists say that “there is no time in spirituality”.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2014/06/what-is-time/
Albert @ KabU
- October 31, 2021 at 2:24 am EDT #184705NiklasParticipant
Hello 🙂 Fellow student here (not instructor!)
Regarding question #1:
As I have understood, the descending of light through the 5 worlds is a concealment of that light. Like a filtering of certain aspects of that light. It’s like seeing a plant and feeling its inherent life force and beauty versus only seeing the plant and its colors. Let’s see, what the instructors have to say about that.Regarding question #2:
I know that “corporeal” in kabbalistic terms means “egoistic”. They never actually talk about physicality vs. non-physicality. “spirituality” on the other hand means “altruistic”. From meditation I know that all our verbal thoughts (the story that we constantly hear in our minds about life’s events) is always about “me”. So, I could imagine that in spirituality thoughts become thinner and thinner, until they eventually stop altogether. Let’s see, what the instructors have to say about that.
Regarding question #3:
Have you ever experienced a beautiful sunset or another breath-taking scenery in nature? It is a moment, where all your thoughts stop and even time seems to stop. I believe this experience of reality is meant by “there is no time and space”. Also, when you enter into deep meditational states, the only thing that remains in your awareness is the sensation of your own being, without time and space. I think a beautiful sunset and a deep meditational state is the same thing. However, Kabbalists never talk about meditation and it doesn’t seem that it is necessary on this path. Let’s see, what the instructors have to say about that.
- October 23, 2021 at 1:53 pm EDT #183733riverroadParticipant
Hi!
In the lecture, Tony told about 125 steps (levels) that are described in specific books. Do these books bear a resemblance to the Old Testament?Tks.
- October 23, 2021 at 4:44 pm EDT #183738Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi,
Yes, there are a lot of Kabbalistic books that have been written throughout the generations, including what is called the “old testament”. Keep in mind that Kabbalistic books are written in a type of code called the language of roots and branches. Meaning that they use words of our world to describe spiritual phenomena.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details:Â https://laitman.com/2016/05/dispelling-myths-about-kabbalah-part-4/
Albert @ KabU
- October 7, 2021 at 1:39 pm EDT #128132Tiago CasellatoParticipant
Hello, KabU Team,
There’s a passage on the text book “Kabbalah: Then and Now” that I found unsettling. It says that ‘we developed science and technology to control the Creator and to protect us from Him’, as if they were ‘opposed to Nature’. It suggests that science and technology didn’t bring us wealth, health and safety.
Well, but statistics show otherwise. In fact, people from all over the world are here right now, alive and vaccinated, connected to this amazing Web platform studying Kabbalah (science of the Upper worlds) thanks to science and technology (of this world). It seems contradictory. Maybe you can clarify.
Thank you.
Tiago
P.S. – I’m a computer scientist. Perhaps this is why I found that text passage unsettling.
- October 8, 2021 at 11:41 am EDT #128201Chris – KabU InstructorModerator
Hey Tiago,
I can’t recall exactly the context here, but I’m imagining the concept of successful egoistic development is more important than success in rising above the ego. This isn’t to say that exploring this world and learning to “control” it for our own benefit hasn’t seemingly brought us great fortune, but the game isn’t to create and design a world that contributes to our egoistic development. This is merely a stepping stone on the path towards developing man on the speaking degree. It’s a necessary step nonetheless, but to dwell in this stage for longer than we need will turn the fortune into misfortune. We’ve already been lagging behind for a while now. Meaning, all of the abundance and “good life” that science and technology have allowed is only poisoning us, confusing us, separating us etc..
This is all towards good though. Just like humanity always learns from mistakes and improves upon them, here too we’ll soon exhaust this perception of reality and see we’re incapable of functioning within our ego which only brings us to destruction no matter which way you look at it. This is something humanity needs to see and more importantly feel, since without it there will still be hope that some new technology will save us from ruin. It’s this despair which will open the door for for approaching the correction of the human being. Instead of a corrupted human inventing corrupted tools, correcting the root of every problem in existence gives us a chance to see these “problems” were only there for us to discover the root (our ego) and therefore the goal which is adhesion with the Creator – or in simple terms – a good life.
If we’re busy inventing and created, we’re not interested in looking for the Creator. This is our nature. It’s only when things go awry are we able to look for solutions, just when we’ve run out of solutions – for instance now when every problem we have is interconnected and interdependent on other points of collapse that all that remains is a global solution – are we able to look at the chaos from a different perspective.
This is “protection from Him” we saught after before no longer offers us such since the whole world is beginning to look for something greater than wealth and abundance. Of course this excludes those who do not have health and safety, their priorities are for survival which restricts the need for a higher fulfillment on the “spiritual” level, but in general, we’ve had generations of wealth and abundance now and we see from it we mainly get depression.
The internet, medicine, science…all of it needed to develop, it’s not that it was “incorrect”, but it’s when you bring the human element into the equation where you see it’s all headed to collapse. Defense and military drive or corrupt technological development, healthcare is only important when there’s profit, social networks AI breed hate and division and focus on profit. It’s the reason or purpose for these technologies are all wrong. When the ego is in control, the only motivation can be for the ego – for self-benefit. When self-benefit brings us to our knees, we’ll need to have a new motivation, a new force that will balance us and help us work for the common good. That’s when we’ll be needy of the quality of nature, of giving and bestowing that needs nothing in return. When we feel we have exhausted the ego, we’ll be desperate and willing to begin correcting the quality in us that only brings us harm. Baal HaSulam writes of a 3rd world war and even a 4th but also writes that it’s not necessary if we’re able to take the cues from nature before we completely surrender to its blows.
Thanks!
Chris
- October 8, 2021 at 10:45 pm EDT #128304Tiago CasellatoParticipant
Thank you, Chris, to take the time to answer.
- October 6, 2021 at 7:05 pm EDT #128012Jonathan LawrenceParticipant
#1. In this study, is it possible to make certain connections and understand things too fast, and get “the bends” in a spiritual sense, like a deep sea diver coming to the surface too quickly? How does one remedy this kind of a situation or make the best of it?
#2. Any tips for making spiritual awakening as safe as humanly possible for myself and the people around me? This is powerful stuff we are learning here.
- October 7, 2021 at 9:55 am EDT #128124Albert – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Jonathan, great questions!
Kabbalah is the method by which we correct our egoistic nature. There is nothing really unsafe about studying authentic Kabbalah. Although we do go through many ups and down on the spiritual path. This is normal. The important thing is to just keep going, to keep placing yourself under the influence of the light and it’ll balance everything out.
So the best thing is to set aside some time to regularly return to the Kabbalistic sources, weekly lessons, videos, books, etc. Such habits of returning to the source of the light will help us get through all of the different ups and downs on the path. Aside from that, we should continue to live our normal lives. Maintaining a normal corporeal life is an important part of this balance.
Albert @ KabU
- October 5, 2021 at 11:27 am EDT #127798Antoinette VerlaanParticipant
I do not have anty questions for now. Kabbalah is something i recently started taking interest in. I hope to learn a lot from this course.
- October 2, 2021 at 8:48 am EDT #127480TreeParticipant
I have no questions that hasn’t been asked previously. I went back and read all of your answers. I like how you included links to gather more information on each questions subject. I’m looking forward to this sunday’s teaching!
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