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    • #300191
      Toni Peltonen
      Participant

      Basically we have no free will because the creator is the one placing us in the correct environment, we can only agree with this system and choose to speed up the process. Am I understanding this correctly?

      • #300333

        Hi Toni,

        To some extent, that is correct. There is a saying that the Creator puts man’s hand on the good fate and says “choose this for yourself”. Meaning He awakened your point in the heart and brought it to a good spiritual environment in which you can nourish it, but after that the rest is up to you.

        But if the point in the heart is forcing me to be here, what needs to happen for me to start actualizing my free will? This desire then needs to be taken away from me little by little, and there I begin to reveal more and more the place of my freedom.

        This is similar to how we teach a child to ride a bike. First the parent holds the child completely. Then as the child learns to pedal and balance himself, the parent lets go a little, then a little more and a little more, until the child continue to pedal without the parent holding him at all.

        So we too need to learn to continue to do this work even when that initial desire for spirituality begins to disappear or when the ego grows and begins to pull us into many different directions. Here there is already a need for mutual work in the group, the spiritual environment. On one hand when I fall into my ego, they need to pull me out, and on the other hand I need to help pull others out when they fall. This is why Kabbalists have always studied in groups (physical or virtual).

        We will learn more about this in the more advanced semesters on KabU, where you’ll receive your own Kabbalah group with whom you can practice these things.

        Albert @ KabU

        • #300356
          Toni Peltonen
          Participant

          Thank you Albert. For whatever reason this was/is the most difficult lesson to grasp so far and the yearning definitely seems to grow because of that! Hope that made sense 🙂.

    • #298594
      Amani
      Participant

      I am an African and our parents invoke spiritual forces for protection and abundance. These forces act on children. How can I get rid of it ?

      • #298682

        Hi Amani,

        Kabbalah does not deal with such things. We learn in Kabbalah that there is nothing evil in the world except for our own egoistic nature. This is why Kabbalah only deals with the correction of our egoistic nature. As a result of this correction, we become similar to the Creator and reveal this force of love and bestowal in practice, in our lives.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2015/07/a-devil-with-horns-or-our-own-egoism/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297607
      Massimo Roselli
      Participant

      In my work I coach people to navigate life career transitions and make more conscious decisions by using different coaching methods such as NLP – neuro linguistic programming. I’m also doing this work on myself to train my subconscious mind in order to reprogram my “software”. If there isn’t such thing as free will and if the Creator is the only force in this world, does this mean all the work I do can be questionable? Also, can we say that applying an intention is another way to proactively choose and achieve freedom in addition to creating a spiritual environment that helps us grow?

      • #297881

        Hi Massimo,

        Freedom means rising above our egoistic nature. We can do this only through the force of the light that we extract from the spiritual environment. See my reply to Natalie below for more details.

        Regarding your corporeal work, I cannot comment on your personal situation. But in general, we shouldn’t mix our corporeal lives with our spiritual work. In corporeality, as long as we’re not harming others or doing anything illegal, then everyone is encouraged to build a normal life for themselves: to work, start a family, take care of one’s health, etc. And in the more advanced phases of our development, we’ll understand how this corporeal system in which we build for ourselves a normal life is also a part of our spiritual correction.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297589
      Natalie Steenbok
      Participant

      Thank you for this insight. Can it be said that the 4th point that we have a choice over is similar to nature vs nurture, only nurture enhancing nature?

      • #297889
        Massimo Roselli
        Participant

        Thank you!

      • #297878

        Hi Natalie,

        Yes, you can say that. Just keep in mind that when we talk about these 4 factors, we’re primarily talking about our spiritual development, about freedom from our egoistic nature.

        Baal HaSulam talks about this in the article, the Freedom. He writes: “Harut (carved) on the tables”; do not pronounce it Harut (carved), but rather Herut (freedom), to show that they are liberated from the angel of death.

        Throughout the article he explains how our current egoistic nature is that angel of death. Meaning although we are technically alive and surviving, relative to spirituality, our life is considered death. True life is within a completely different nature, that of bestowal. In order to reach freedom from our current nature, we need to choose and build a spiritual environment for ourselves which will influence us with the importance of acquiring the quality of bestowal.

        For this reason, the Kabbalists equate our main freedom in life in choosing to be influenced by a spiritual environment. Not just any environment, but specifically a spiritual environment, since only through the spiritual environment can we get the importance of coming out of our egoistic nature and only through that environment can we draw the light that can help us to actualize this.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2012/10/bestowal-should-become-fashionable/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297421
      Purity K
      Participant

      Why should we  be punished for actions that do not come from us but are placed in us by the Creator?

      • #297488

        Hi Ruth,

        As we learned in this lesson, we do have a certain amount of freedom in choosing which environment will influence us. So if we are punished, we are not punished for our actions, but for choosing to be influenced by a bad environment.

        Baal HaSulam writes about it in the article “The Freedom”. Here’s an excerpt:

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        “However, there is freedom for the will to initially choose such an environment, such books, and such guides that impart to him good concepts. If one does not do that, but is willing to enter any environment that appears to him and read any book that falls into his hands, he is bound to fall into a bad environment or waste his time on worthless books, which are abundant and easier to come by. In consequence, he will be forced into foul concepts that make him sin and condemn. He will certainly be punished, not because of his evil thoughts or deeds, in which he has no choice, but because he did not choose to be in a good environment, for in that there is definitely a choice.

        Therefore, he who strives to continually choose a better environment is worthy of praise and reward. But here, too, it is not because of his good thoughts and deeds, which come to him without his choice, but because of his effort to acquire a good environment, which brings him these good thoughts and deeds.”

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        Keep in mind that, in Kabbalah, reward and punishment is not referring to someone judging our actions and handing us a fine, rather reward and punishment are referring to a cause and effect relationship that is found in the laws of nature. For example, if I disregard the law of gravity and jump from a 100 story building, then I’ll be “punished” by falling to my death. Meaning it’s not a punishment, but cause and effect, jump off 100 story building -> death.

        Likewise with our spiritual work:

        If I build a good spiritual environment for myself -> I’ll correct my egoistic nature and become similar to the Creator.

        If I don’t build a good spiritual environment for myself -> I’ll waste my time and not reach the spiritual correction in this life.

        So there are no punishments in Kabbalah, but there are laws of nature. And we need to come into balance with these laws.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details:

        https://laitman.com/2008/10/nature%E2%80%99s-commandments-the-creator%E2%80%99s-laws/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297152
      Abe Tapia
      Participant

      Thank you ALBERT for the info.  I will be reviewing the lesson again.

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