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    • #320833
      John
      Participant

      Below is a quote from, “Kabbalah, Science and Meaning of Life”, page 93 (pdf version):

      “Kabbalah deals with everything that expands from the Creator
      to the reality that He has created, and which He leads to His
      desired goal. Kabbalah does not deal with the Creator Himself.”

      My question is:  why does Kabbalah limit its teachings only to “everything that expands from the Creator”, but the teachings do “not deal with the Creator Himself”?

      I am asking this question from reading this article by Baal HaSulam titled, “The Solution”; here is the link:  http://www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/3812?/eng/content/view/full/3812&main.

      In this article, he wrote, under the subtitle, “Contact With Him” (the bold type is my emphasis):

      “People imagine that a person who has contact with the Creator is a person above nature…  “However, He is not so. This is because in fact, He owns nature. Hence, there is nothing more natural than coming into contact with one’s Maker, for He owns nature. In fact, every creature has contact with his Maker, as it is written, “The whole earth is full of His glory,” and not that one does not know and does not feel it.

      Baal HaSulam goes on to write in the next paragraph, “Actually, one who attains contact with Him attains only the awareness. It is as though one has a treasure in his pocket, and he does not know. Along comes another who lets him know what is in his pocket, and now he really has become rich. Yet, there is nothing new here, no cause for excitation. In fact, nothing has been added. The same with one who has been granted the gift of knowing that he is the Creator’s son; nothing has been added in his actual reality but the awareness he had not had before.”

      In Light of this Fact that the “treasure” of this “gift of knowing that he is the Creator’s son” is already in our “pocket” – why not just be the person who comes along and “lets him know what is in his pocket”, let everyone come into this “awareness” as quickly as possible?  Yes, it is a “gift” that has to be “granted” by the Creator Himself, but why not orient the whole program to focus the attention on attaining this Supreme, Invaluable, Eternal Gift of Awareness as quickly as possible?  Instead of this whole process of inversion, 125 steps, etc.?  Our Connection with Him just needs to be Awakened – it’s already a Fact.   Baal HaSulam himself so testifies.

      In this Awareness that our very Beingness is a direct “expansion” from His very Essence – we would immediately feel and know for a Truth that we are Eternally connected to everyone and everything.  Our whole egotistic nature of receiving just for ourselves would be seen as the illusion that it IS – In Fact, our every breath is both a reception and a bestowal, simultaneously, to the whole of life.  We would immediately and directly know just exactly what to do in each moment, under direct Awareness of our connection with the Creator and all of His Creation, how to both receive and bestow perfectly and harmoniously.

      Thank you.

      • #320839

        Why doesn’t Kabbalah deal with the Creator? Here there’s only a problem with conveyance of understanding through language. In every place where “Creator” is written, or any name referring to the Upper Force, Kabbalists don’t mean the Creator Himself, called Atzmuto (His Essence). That’s because in the same way physicists would regard anyone philosophizing about prior to the Big Bang as a mere philosopher, so Kabbalists don’t take seriously anyone speculating about the Creator Himself. Physicists draw conclusions – even about “billions of years ago” only from what either people or their instruments can gather hard evidence of. Kabbalists only write about that which they attain as solidly as the computer screen in front of you. Physicists “know” that probably there must be something prior to the Big Bang. Such a force that creates a whole world couldn’t come from nothing. But we don’t attain it. But we understand that that we don’t attain. Kabbalists too first of all attain a spiritual degree. Even this first degree is already seemingly all inclusive, the Creator, the loving force that includes all of reality, creates it, beyond which there is nothing, and we – because in the true spiritual reality objects are separated only by lack of equivalence of form – we merge with the Creator due to equivalence of form with Him. This first degree is as the Final Correction beyond which no greater perfection can be. More than one has vessels to even fantasize about in his wildest philosophical dreams.

        And then… it becomes revealed that, no, there is here something more, something I don’t attain, a higher degree that exists. And toward the degree that I’m on now, it is called Creator. Thus, Kabbalists write, “every ‘day’ I have a new Creator.” Kabbalists only write about what they attain in their vessels and not what seems might be beyond their vessels, as from going through this process they learn that speculation about that part that lies beyond is actually not serious.

        • #321118
          John
          Participant

          Please respond to the second part of my question
          Thank you Beloved Gianni for your kind and thoughtful reply.

          I did make a reply earlier this morning, but it di not go through.  So I am trying again.

          I would like to apologize to everyone for the length of this post, but it is profoundly important and I believe this information below can change the course of your life.

          Please understand that I wrote this post and asked this question about why Kabbalah does not “deal with the Creator Himself”, after reading “The Solution”, by Baal HaSulam, under the Subtitle, “Contact with Him”. Here is the link again: http://www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/3812?/eng/content/view/full/3812&main.

          Please note that a key paragraph in this article was quoted by one of the moderators of the European Retreat as a kind of “theme” to start the program. So this is obviously extremely important for everyone to be aware of. This is the whole purpose that I am writing this post and asking for your comments and clarification. But you did not make any reference to this article in your response. So I am asking again that you please respond to the second part of my post, regarding this article by Baal HaSulam.

          I will quote part of it again (bold type is my emphasis): “People imagine that a person who has contact with the Creator is a person above nature…  “However, He is not so. This is because in fact, He owns nature. Hence, there is nothing more natural than coming into contact with one’s Maker, for He owns nature. In fact, every creature has contact with his Maker, as it is written, “The whole earth is full of His glory,” and not that one does not know and does not feel it.

          As I mentioned above, the next paragraph was actually quoted by one of the moderators at the very start of the European Retreat, to set the “tone” and the purpose of the Retreat – Please note carefully his emphasis on “awareness“.  Baal HaSulam writes in the next paragraph: “Actually, one who attains contact with Him attains only the awareness. It is as though one has a treasure in his pocket, and he does not know. Along comes another who lets him know what is in his pocket, and now he really has become rich. Yet, there is nothing new here, no cause for excitation. In fact, nothing has been added. The same with one who has been granted the gift of knowing that he is the Creator’s son; nothing has been added in his actual reality but the awareness he had not had before.”

          Baal HaSulam tells us quite clearly and plainly three extremely important Facts about “awareness”:

          First, we can attain Actual, Factual contact with the Creator – but this is Actually just a shift in Awareness – this Treasure of contact with Him is always there, “a treasure in his pocket, but we did “not know.” We were not Aware that we already ARE in contact with Him. Even in this Here and Now moment of our lives.

          Second, “another” can come along “who lets him know what is in his pocket.” Who is this “other”? It must be someone who already knows that there is this “treasure” of connection with the Creator “in our pocket”. And what does this person do? He simply directs our Attention to this Fact – then we become Aware of this Fact – we already are connected to the Creator. It is as the scripture quoted in the first paragraph says, “The whole earth is full of His glory,” and not that one does not know and does not feel it.”. We all “know”, and “feel” this connection.

          Third, Awareness of Knowing that we are the Creator’s son is a “gift of knowing” this Truth. But what is of crucial importance, and the whole point that I want to focus everyone’s attention on and get your comments and clarification: nothing has been added in his actual reality but the awareness he had not had before.”

          We are taught that, our “actual reality” is essentially, that we are the opposite of the Creator, at the opposite end of His Holiness, and we have to invert our desire to receive for ourselves to a desire to bestow to the Creator. But from this article, it looks like what we really need to do is just redirect our attention from being egos, at the opposite end of His holiness – to the Real Truth, that we already have this “treasure” of connection to Him in our possession, at the very core of our “being”.

          It is the direct felt and known experience HERE, that once we receive this “gift of Knowing”, we come into this “Divine Awareness” (“Attaining the Worlds Beyond” pg 30), that we Actually are His Beloved Son; then we will only do as He Wills, bring Him as much contentment and joy as we can, by always receiving His miraculous Gift of Love and Life, just to return it with joy and gratitude back to him. We are “saved” from our suffering as egos, and so the whole world is saved. All with just a shift in our “awareness”.

          “Awareness”. What does Kabbalah teach about awareness? I did a search for the word, “aware” in all of my Kabbalah pdf documents and books and came up with 212 instances in 32 documents. A search for the word, “awareness” came up with 275 instances in 31 documents. I am still going through all of these references in the KabU books and documents that refer to just these two words, “aware”, and “awareness”, and it is really amazing the profound Truths that Kabbalah teaches.

          So please comment on this article by Baal HaSulam, and on Kabbalah’s Teachings about “Awareness”.  It seems very plain and clear that Kabbalah does indeed teach about the Creator directly.

        • #321169

          I’d recommend reading the published articles of Baal HaSulam to clarify these matters. Especially The Essence of the Wisdom of KabbalahThe Teaching of Kabbalah and its Essence, and The Wisdom of Kabbalah and Philosophy. Because The Solution is an unpublished article. It was for him, written in a way that he could understand what he needed to touch upon later when he puts it together for the public. There is a ton of room for confusion in it. Every word needs explanation. So here it’s the word “awareness”. There’s also the matter of direct perception of the Creator himself.

          So, the latter first – you can read about it here: http://www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/31687?/eng/content/view/full/31687&main

          And here: https://laitman.com/2011/01/honor-your-father/#gsc.tab=0

          So, if you read those, you’ll understand that (1) we do not reveal the Creator Himself, but only his manifestation in our Kli (vessel). This Kli is always changing though it is written that the Creator never changes (“I, the Lord, do not change”). And as my vessel evolves, if I had a perception of the Creator inside it, that changes. That’s why it is written, “Every day I have a new Creator.” This is the matter of there being several different names for the Creator. This is also the matter of “The Whole Torah is the names of the Creator.” Meaning it describes all the states the Kli goes through on the way to full attainment of the Creator. But at the end of it all, it’s still what’s revealed in the vessel as the Creator and not anything outside it. In this, we have all the way to the end, a science, such that the Creator we refer to is only that which I attain as surely as the computer in front of me. Less than that isn’t considered attainment, and in fact, even that is considered less than what Kabbalists mean by attainment. The hard science of our world in fact is far less rigorous than Kabbalah’s standard of proof. And that’s why the science of our world always changes, whereas the letters of the Kabbalists are the same discovered in different places and times, by different Kabbalists throughout in all times.

          Now the matter of “awareness”. From the above, we can also understand that Kabbalists do not take seriously mere mental pivots but they respect those pivots as part of the effort to come to the right perception. On the one hand, Baal HaSulam informs us that our whole perception is a psychological matter. But that’s just a way of describing all that I feel and experience as psychological phenomena. If I could truly pivot, with all of my vessels of perception, toward the spiritual world, the world of bestowal, then I would reach what is called “מודעות” (moda’ut), awareness. It shares the root י־ד־ע (yod-dalet-ayin) with the word “דַּעַת” (da’at), knowing. And knowing here is as in “וְהָאָדָם יָדַע אֶת־חַוָּה אִשְׁתּוֹ” (veha’adam yada et-Chavah ishto) – “and Adam knew his wife”. So, must be the awareness of the Creator. It’s knowing, which means truly attaining as if holding it in one’s hand, and nothing less than that.

          Except for the perception of the Creator in 5 new, spiritual senses, more real than the current reality we feel, everything else is just exercises. And these exercises are good, and we need to understand and practice them more and more thoroughly.

        • #321226
          John
          Participant

          Thank you again Beloved Gianni for your kind and thoughtful reply.

          Again, please forgive the length of this post, but what is being shared here is just totally life-changing information.

          It is interesting that you reply that “‘The Solution’ is an unpublished article.”  It is indeed published on the http://www.kabbalah.info website.  Its importance cannot be underestimated, in light of the fact that it was quoted at the start of the EU Retreat, as a kind of theme for the whole program.  And one of my study companions had a link to it immediately when I asked for one.  So this article is obviously well-known by KabU students and teachers.

          And then, surprisingly,  you go on to reply that, “It was for him, written in a way that he could understand what he needed to touch upon later when he puts it together for the public.”  Did Baal HaSulam categorize this article this way himself?  Do you have a citation for this?

          Your next reply was also a surprise: “There is a ton of room for confusion in it. Every word needs explanation.”  It was crystal clear to me that Baal HaSulam was stating a profound but totally simple Truth:  We already are connected to the Creator, and it’s all perfectly natural.  Nothing to even be excited about, as nothing has been added to our reality but the awareness of this fact.

          So please do not dismiss this article, but clarify what this article means in terms of Kabbalah Teachings.    It is THE SOLUTION to the whole dilemma of the human condition, as I wrote in my post.

          In my search of my collection of Kabbalah books and documents in pdf form, for the words, “aware”, and “awareness” I came up with some very exciting and extremely important information.  Most importantly I found that what we refer to as “faith above reason” which is the key to all attainment, is actually an awareness of the Creator.  Wow!  Here’s what Rabbi Laitman wrote in this context:

          In, “Attaining the Worlds Beyond”, in the Chapter, “Perceiving the Creator” Rabbi Laitman poses this question on pg. 16, “How much easier would life be if the Creator were not concealed from human beings, but were clearly perceived and seen by each and every one of us!”  I will not quote all of his answers to this proposition but the essence is that,

          “Just imagine how natural it would be (and also how
          unnatural and impossible it is in the present condition of
          Divine concealment) to give ourselves fully to the Creator, to
          surrender all of our thoughts and desires to Him without
          reservation, and to be what He wants us to be.”

          Rabbi Laitman concludes: “From the above, it should be clear that the only element lacking in our world is our perception of the Creator.”  He goes on to write (bold type is my emphasis):

          “The attainment of such a perception should be our sole
          purpose in this world. This is the one goal we should spare no
          effort to achieve, for only when we can perceive the Creator
          can we receive His help. This would save us from both the
          calamities of this life and from a spiritual death, thereby
          according us spiritual immortality without having to return
          to this world.

          “The method of searching for our perception of the Creator
          is known as “Kabbalah.” Our perception of the Creator is
          called faith.” However, we often mistakenly believe that
          faith implies groping in the dark, without seeing or
          perceiving the Creator.

          “In fact, faith means exactly the opposite. According to
          Kabbalah, the Light of the Creator that fills a person, the Light
          of the connection to the Creator, the Light that gives a feeling
          of unification with Him (Ohr Hassadim) is known as “the Light
          of Faith,” or simply, faith.

          “Faith, the Light of the Creator, gives us a sensation of being
          linked to the eternal. It brings us an understanding of the
          Creator, a feeling of complete communication with Him, as
          well as a sense of absolute security, immortality, greatness and
          strength. It becomes clear that deliverance from our temporal
          existence and from our suffering (caused by our futile pursuit
          of transient pleasures) lies only in our attaining faith, through
          which we will be able to perceive the Creator.

          Dr. Laitman then writes, “The aim
          of this text is to guide you through the initial stages of the
          path to perceiving the Creator.” Pg. 18

          On page 29, under the Sub-Title, “Faith Above Reason”, Dr. Laitman reveals,

          “Faith, or the awareness of the Creator, must be such that
          we feel that we are in the presence of the King of the Universe.
          Then, undoubtedly, we will become imbued with the
          necessary feelings of love and fear. Until we attain such
          faith, we must continuously strive for it. For it is only faith

          that will allow us to enjoy a spiritual life and prevent us from
          sinking to the depths of egoism, once again becoming
          pleasure seekers.

          Our need to become aware of the Creator must be
          cultivated until it becomes permanently entrenched in our
          being. It must resemble a permanent attraction towards a
          loved one, without whom life seems unbearable.

          “Everything that surrounds human beings deliberately
          dulls the need for Divine Awareness, and sensing pleasure
          from anything external instantly reduces the pain of
          spiritual emptiness. Therefore, while enjoying the pleasures
          of this world, it is vital that we keep them from obliterating
          our need to perceive the Creator, as these pleasures rob us of
          spiritual sensations.”

          This whole chapter of “Perceiving the Creator” is profoundly important to all Kabbalah students, especially the revelation that Faith above Reason is Actually Awareness of the Creator.

          There is much, much more in the KabU books about the crucial importance of awareness in our Spiritual lives.

          I would like to emphasize that what is being pointed to in this post, is that Baal HaSulam and Rabbi Laitman have stated quite clearly that perception of the Creator is the Solution to our whole human dilemma, and that Awareness is the key to attaining this Gift of Knowing.

          This has absolutely nothing to do with psychology, mental exercises, philosophizing, speculating, or fantasizing.  Actual, Real Perception of the Creator is Actual Eternal Awareness of our Eternal Oneness with the Creator and all of Creation, beyond the ephemeral, illusory level of the human senses and the illusion of time and space.  Our Oneness with the Creator is Here and Now.  It can be felt and Known.  It can only be attained as a Gift of Knowing by the Creator, but it is already an Eternal Fact of Reality.   And one can then simply do a 180-degree turn in our attention and focus our Awareness wholly, totally, and forever on Him.

          It is as you replied, “and Adam knew his wife”. So, must be the awareness of the Creator. It’s knowing, which means truly attaining as if holding it in one’s hand, and nothing less than that.” Yes, this is the Truth.

          So what does Kabbalah teach about, “מודעות” (moda’ut), awareness. It shares the root י־ד־ע (yod-dalet-ayin) with the word “דַּעַת” (da’at), knowing. And knowing here is as in “וְהָאָדָם יָדַע אֶת־חַוָּה אִשְׁתּוֹ” (veha’adam yada et-Chavah ishto)”  I would really like to know more about this.

          Thank you.

           

           

           

           

           

        • #321333

          Let’s learn some more, and then we’ll see.

        • #321076
          John
          Participant

          I wrote a reply to your kind response to my question, but it did not appear after I clicked on the “Submit” button.  Was it blocked, or was it a technical issue?

          In my reply, I asked you to please comment on the quote I gave from the article by Baal HaSulam.  Your answer did not refer to what Baal HaSulam wrote.

          Thank you.

        • #321088

          Must be a tech issue. Feel free to repost if you still have this question.

    • #318684

      Hi 🙂

      I am still not able to use the kabbalah books correctly.

      If I read by myself some parts which are not related to the lesson, I get the impression of a total misunderstanding.

      My question so is this: at this early stage as mine, do I risk to get confused by what I read? Is this common?

      Thank you 🙂

      • #318711

        Hi Elena,
        There’s no risk. There needs to be an internal change, and then everything will fall into place and I’ll be able to open any text and know what it’s talking about. This change is only through the Reforming Light that works without me knowing how. The little bit of understanding I have when I read some texts is just for there to be something for me to grasp a bit so that the Light can work on me. There is such a force in nature, and these books position me before it, to the extent that I engage in them.

    • #318383

      Now I am in panic! What if I am not able to reach spirituality in this life (given the fact that I am 50 years old) and have to be reborn, and go through all the terrible life experiences to again reach this staring point (if ever) and get stuck in such a loop till the end of time?? How can I ensure to reach spirituality, wake up, in this life?

      • #318390

        If I awakened to the wisdom of Kabbalah it is a sign that I could complete my correction in this lifetime. By the end of the graduate program you’ll know what you need to do and will already be on your way.

    • #315379
      Todd
      Participant

      We are all suffering more than we realize?

      • #315389

        We’re in an ocean of suffering that we no longer perceive we’re in. We can get used to anything. We’re used to every moment containing varying degrees of emptiness and pain, and to the extent it does not increase, we do not feel that we’re “wet”, though we’re always in this ocean of suffering. That’s why there is no reality lower than ours, and we have only to rise, from a world of darkness to a world of Light.

    • #315111
      Todd
      Participant

      Do we ever get to the point where we need to change other parts of the ego other than the part that is exploitative towards others?

      • #315112

        We’ll learn more, and then understand why everything in Creation funnels through only that. Except for the aim from outwards into myself, I have nothing else to correct.

    • #314975
      William Taylor
      Participant

      I am thinking that Kabbalah is the study of receiving in faith that all our needs are met with out fail from the Creator, so in turn we give what we receive in faith, and when we do we become one with him and become his corporeal hand. Therefore the beginning becomes the end and the end becomes the beginning.

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