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    Engage in an exploration of the week 2 lesson and materials, receiving insights from a seasoned Kabbalah mentor.

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    • #288334
      tom
      Participant

      I’ve understood that kabbalists don’t talk about the state they’re in, so I’m not gonna ask about your personal state, but maybe you can talk about it in a more general way. I can’t grasp the fact that people who crossed the barrier are still living in this world, because Rav Laitman says that this world doesn’t exist in spirituality. Have all the teachers crossed the barrier? Or is it impossible to understand this with a linear mind? I can solve this riddle only by supposing that there are different versions of us, but I don’t wanna delude myself, so I’d really like to have an answer on this one. Thank you

      • #288355

        Hey Tom,

        Although it would be fun to have an answer to this question, the statement that is relevant to our advancement, and not only interesting, is that we will have to accept the fact that someone has crossed the Barrier into spirituality, that a method to do so exists, and that exists wherever we decided to study. This is the criterion for one choosing to study where one studies. So, it doesn’t matter whatsoever if anyone admits that they’ve themselves reached spirituality since that admission would already require your belief in that person. And that belief is utterly irrelevant in that it is not important for your advancement to spirituality. Because that would hinge your advancement on the belief in some fool such as myself, while I anticipate your advancement to hinge on the greatness of the Kabbalists, Baal HaSulam and Rabash. I can assure you that they attained spirituality. If one more person will attest. what does that give you? That gives you nothing. Check with yourself and see that it is so.

    • #287969
      Beverly
      Participant

      So, if I understand the Kabbalist correctly…..”God” is a personal perspective. If you believe “God” exist then he/she exists. If you don’t then he/she doesn’t exist.

      If I understood the video correctly that God is a perspective……then…what are we doing all of this studying for? To expand our egos?

      Again, if I am correct with my synopsis…..we have too much time on our hands. Instead of being and doing we’re thinking and creating nothingness for entertainment?

      So, what’s the “truth”? Perception? The universe is whatever I believe it to be?

      Well, that sucks!

      • #288034

        Hi Beverly,
        <p style=”text-align: center;”>The Creator or God is the force of bestowal that governs and manages our corporeal world. In order to attain the purpose of creation, being to fulfill the created beings, we must become similar to this force, God, through equivalence of form.  We do this in the right environment under the right guidance according to very specific principles. And although we do need to understand our nature, being to what extent I am controlled by the will to receive, the ego, this is only in order to push us to the state where we will desire a new nature, being the quality of bestowal.</p>

    • #285659
      Wendi
      Participant

      Did Blake ask the right question? This poem has haunted me since grade school in the 60’s in central Pennsylvania. Now it seems to me, Kabbalah has framed it properly. How do you feel about it? Does it frame the lesson poetically?

      Tyger, by William Blake

      Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
      In the forests of the night;
      What immortal hand or eye,
      Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

      In what distant deeps or skies.
      Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
      On what wings dare he aspire?
      What the hand, dare seize the fire?

      And what shoulder, & what art,
      Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
      And when thy heart began to beat,
      What dread hand? & what dread feet?

      What the hammer? what the chain,
      In what furnace was thy brain?
      What the anvil? what dread grasp,
      Dare its deadly terrors clasp!

      When the stars threw down their spears
      And water’d heaven with their tears:
      Did he smile his work to see?
      Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

      Tyger Tyger burning bright,
      In the forests of the night:
      What immortal hand or eye,
      Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

      • #285689

        The right question is, “What is the meaning of my life? Why have I wasted it? Why did I waste my whole life on questions that don’t matter one bit? How is it that my will to receive is thus leading me to my grave, and I will die without attaining the purpose of my existence and be born again to answer this question if I don’t, in this lifetime, arrive at the right answer?”

    • #284917
      Richard Lively
      Participant

      you talk about the Masach (screen), can can this be repaired without a group?   Does the creator simply repair this through genuine request?  Or does this only get repaired as the PIH grows in a spiritual environment?

      • #285094

        The Shattering of the Masach is precisely the shattering of the connection with others, and as an individual it is a violation of the Upper Laws for me to receive. As long as I still think I can receive somehow, so I’m in an imaginary world. A playpen where I think I can receive, but never do. All I have to do is not be alone, but always feel myself connected through others to the Creator. And that simple task is impossible. That’s why I need the wisdom of Kabbalah, to build that inner connection.

    • #220247
      Esther
      Participant

      Could you explain the concept of the masach?  I understand we learn to receive some of the Light to bestow and the rest is rejected.  What does that mean, that it’s rejected?  Where does it go?  How does it feel to a person?  Can you give an example?

      • #220666

        Hi Esther,

        The reason you can’t explain how it feels to have a Restriction, Screen, and Reflected Light (Tzimzum, Masach, Ohr Hozer) is that it doesn’t feel like anything that a person has experienced. What have we experienced of the goal of Creation, which is to feel unbounded delight, pleasure, and tranquility? We have only been, our whole lives, on the way to different pleasures which, as we’re about to receive one of them, the Light, meaning all the hoped-for fulfilment, evaporates. And that’s because by our nature we want to receive without any reason for reception other than it’s good for us. We don’t want to account for the Source of the pleasure except insofar as we must use them in order to get the pleasure. Our attitude is like this towards others around us of course, and so the real Source, the Upper Light is concealed. So, to develop the Tzimzum, we have to change this attitude – and we can’t change it, the Reforming Light that we draw during the study of the wisdom of Kabbalah has to make these changes. It seems like just changing our attitude can’t alter reality but it’s because our attitude, in the parameter that matters, is ever in one direction – reception. That’s why it seems not powerful, but this inner change can literally move mountains. If this point in our attitude changes, we’ll see a totally different reality. If I just want to receive, they will keep showing me this one; when I will want to not receive unless it’s to bestow back to the Upper Force, the spiritual world starts opening up immediately.

    • #219438
      BEN
      Participant

      There is no movement, no time, no space or lack in spirituality. Does this mean predictions, seeing the future tarot reading, astrology etc all these arent helpful because it works on tne premise that man will not change and be ab,e to trwnsform his reception to bestowal?

      • #219499

        Whatever he will do, by this means or that means, with understanding or without, he will not alter his destiny. He can know that in a minute he will fall off a cliff, and in a minute, wherever he runs, he will fall off that cliff. He is in a forcefield, about which he can do nothing. If he does not change himself on the inside, by the Reforming Light, which is only through the wisdom of Kabbalah, then no matter what he does, he will fall off the cliff he is supposed to fall off of. He can do whatever he wants. Pray, anything he wants. But he will fall off. Then, he will enter a reality in which he doesn’t know to try to play around with things and again he will have another opportunity to play by the normal rules. Without magic, without cards, without nothing. With normal legs and arms. With the regular rules of reality. Except there is a method, with a group, with a teacher, with correct books, to draw the Reforming Light and move closer to the spiritual goal. Otherwise he’s in a Mario Brothers game, he can do whatever he wants before the pit he’s going to fall into, but a bit forward and he’s falling into the pit, and next time, same pit. Until he takes the correct method by which to leap above his ego. And there are no other methods but the wisdom of Kabbalah to leap above.

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