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      I’ve always had a feeling… a full glass that’s always been full has no idea of how it would feel empty, yet to KNOW all there is it’s intrigued to empty itself to know how emptiness feels, and how it feels to be filled again. And I felt I was one of those drops spilled by the glass and my game was to find my way up that steep wall to get back in there. A video game without instructions where one discovers one has attained a new level only AFTER it happened. Yet even if one dies, the levels are never set back, one always starts where one was no matter how lot one feels… Then I found KabU and I feel I was almost right in my life long feelings… Quite profound, filling, yet making me so hungry for more I feel like I’m really starving now. The Creator sure poked me in every step I lived so I would be as hungry as possible once I got to all of you. I’d want to say I’m pissed, but truth is, with my new eyes, I see how profoundly grateful I truly am to be “late” to the game! Thank you so much!

    • #362161
      Helen
      Participant

      how to understand below statement? still not sure why 3 states depends on each other.

      “When you examine the above three states, you will find that one completely necessitates the other, in a way that if one were to be canceled, the others would be canceled, too.

      If, for example, the third state—the inversion of the form of reception to the form of bestowal—had not materialized, it is certain that the first state in Ein Sof would never have been able to emerge, since the wholeness materialized there only because the future third state was already there, as though it is the present. All the wholeness that was depicted there in that state is like a reflection from the future into the present. But if the future could be canceled, there would not be any present. Thus, the third state necessitates the existence of the first state.”

       

      • #362185

        Hi Helen,

        The Creator created creation in a state of perfection. If it was possible to cancel any of the three states, it would cancel the perfection of creation.

        If for example you cancel the first or third state and we’re just in the second state, it means the perfect Creator created something imperfect.

        If you cancel the second state and we remain in the first state, then we remain in an unconscious state, which by itself is also not perfect.

        But since creation is perfect, there is no chance to cancel any of these states, meaning each and every one of us must necessarily reach that third state of complete perfection. If so, where then is our freedom in this system? Baal HaSulam continues that article by explaining that since the end goal is set, our freedom is only in the path we take to get there, whether by the path of light or the path of suffering. That’s the main takeaway from the three state model, if you understand that, you’re good.

        Check out these blog posts from Rav Laitman for more details:

        https://laitman.com/2014/01/from-perfection-to-perfection/

        http://laitman.com/2011/01/lets-go-with-the-light/

        Albert @ KabU

        • #362239
          Helen
          Participant

          thank you for the reply. you mentioned  “The Creator created creation in a state of perfection”, then you mentioned “If you cancel the second state and we remain in the first state, then we remain in an unconscious state, which by itself is also not perfect.” so is it perfect or not perfect?  if not perfect, then he didn’t create something perfect, if perfect, then he didn’t need anything else to make it more perfect?

          why didn’t creator create us in the perfect state with consciousness? to begin with the state 3? if not possible, then there is something not possible for the creator? if he choose to be, why? so we get to have free will and he wants us to choose him via free will rather than create us choosing him automatically? if so, I see this makes sense. but still, is the stage 1 perfect or not perfect?

        • #362287

          Yes, those are exactly the questions Rav Laitman addresses in that blog post: https://laitman.com/2014/01/from-perfection-to-perfection/

    • #362041

      I have no questions actually. But what I can see is that the more i learn these things the more miserable I am becoming because I just realise how blind am I…
      If I knew all these before it would be easier for me not to fall into meaningless life.. maybe.
      anyway, im very grateful for all these lessons.

    • #362016
      Zachary Jones
      Participant

      In the article “Peace in the World”, Baal HaSulam says that Kabbalists free themselves from the chains of time and greatly accelerate time. Please speak more of his meaning as it relates to time acceleration.

      • #362118

        Hi Zachary,

        Time in Kabbalah is not defined by the passage of seconds, but rather by the changes that take place within the desire. It’s possible that within one lifetime, we didn’t make any efforts to correct our egoistic desires. So spirituality, it’s as if time has not passed at all. And it’s possible that in our lifetime our desires went through many corrections. So spirituality, time was accelerated, and it’s as if we lived out multiple lifetimes.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2014/06/what-is-time/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #362010
      Zachary Jones
      Participant

      How did sages of the past discover the number 600,000, specifically as the number of pieces the creature was divided into? Is this number a metaphor to describe the notion of “countlessness”?

      • #362116

        Hi Zachary,

        Spirituality works according to the law of equivalence of form. Meaning that in order to reveal it, we need to become similar to it. So everything that the Kabbalists discovered, they did so by correcting their egoistic nature and thereby becoming similar to the spiritual qualities of love and bestowal. As a result of that correction, they revealed spirituality it in practice. As a result of that revelation, they were able to discover all of these different measurements.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2013/04/everything-is-attained-by-the-equivalence-of-form/

        As for 600,000, keep in mind that it is less of a quantitative number and more of a qualitative number. It represents the strength of the spiritual desire after it’s been fully corrected. So essentially all of humanity is included in this number.

        Check out this blog post to see how this number is derived: https://laitman.com/2010/09/love-and-hatred-of-600000-souls/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #361812
      Helen
      Participant

      if we were created already experiencing unbounded fulfillment, eternity and perfection. what’s the point to descend, then try to climb back? what’s the purpose of this journey/circle?

       

      thanks

      Helen

      • #361845

        Hi Helen,

        We were indeed created in the state of perfection, in complete adhesion with the Creator. (Baal HaSulam describes this in the article Introduction to the book of Zohar). But this was an unconscious state, like a baby in its mother’s womb. So we necessarily had to come to the complete opposite state, to lose that state of perfection, in order to once again reach it, but this time consciously.

        And the fact that we had to lose this state is not something bad, but it’s a necessary part of our development. It’s just like with kids. We don’t just give them a completed jigsaw puzzle. On the contrary we take it and break it down into many pieces. Then in the process of them putting it together, they grow and develop. Same with us, this process of losing that state is a necessary part of our further growth and development.

        This process also adds to us a certain level of freedom, without which, we would be no different than machines, or robots, that were programmed to act a certain way and they just carry out this inner script. Instead, we were programmed one way, and we rise above this inner programming, become independent of it, and then develop our own desire to advance towards this goal.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2014/01/from-perfection-to-perfection/

        Albert @ KabU

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