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    • #320822
      Maria
      Participant

      Sometimes I read, especially “The Science of Kabbalah”, and I feel I get the picture of everything we’re studying in this course. But then I keep on advancing and I start getting confused, especially with the way the soooo many parzufim “are born”. So… has anyway made a movie of how all this we’re studying happens? I would love to see all these “pictures” you’re giving us “in motion”.

      I know that kind of work takes hours… but if nobody has done it yet… I will pray for someone with both, the knowledge in Kabbalah and in movie making, to be able to do such a task as his spiritual development! 😉

      This could also become an app… where you are revealed “how everything develops” step by step, as a price for completing some task (instead of earning bitcoin, LOL). And then you have to remember it for the “way up”. 🙂

      • #320840

        That would be interesting. However I don’t know if we’ll be given such an opportunity. The problem with drawing is that then a student clings to the drawing. We do it a bit, so students won’t be totally lost. But actually a person needs to feel the lack of clarity so that they will search for the correct internal depiction of these things. Since we lack the feeling of them we natural hold tightly to any external drawing that can make them tangible because it’s harder to struggle to locate them within.

        • #320845
          Maria
          Participant

          Hm… ok… it is what it is… 🙁

          But Items 46 to 49 are really making me struggle. I feel completly lost. Can I just keep on moving to the next lesson? I think this Items keep on adding more information to the one I had, and now I feel realy lost, which makes me want to drop the towel…  🙁

        • #320849

          You can move on. Next time it will enter more deeply.

        • #320851
          Maria
          Participant

          Perfect! Thanks!

    • #315276
      Michael
      Participant

      Hi Gianni,

      What I’m reading:

      “The fourth Mitzva is to know that HaVaYaH (the Creator) is Elokim (Lord), as it is written: KNOW THIS DAY AND LAY IT IN YOUR HEART THAT HaVaYaH – CREATOR IS ELOKIM – LORD. That is, the name Elokim is included in the name of the HaVaYaH, and there is no distinction between them.”

      Commentary: HaVaYaH is ZA, and Elokim is Nukva of ZA. ZA and Nukva must be united without any separation between them, so that the name of Elokim, the Nukva, will be included in the name of HaVaYaH, ZA, and Nukva will be considered HaVaYaH, as well.

      What I think it is saying:

      In other words, we are a vessel of reception: Nukva (Malchut); the desire to receive it all and reject nothing.

      This vessel evolves over time and eventually develops a desire to give, illustrated by ZA.

      Is this to say that the name Elokim is created when the desire to receive for self evolves into a desire to receive but only in order to bestow to others?

      Keeping in mind that none of these words exist “outside somewhere”, they are qualities that exist in us, can we say that everything Kabbalah talks about is found within our own desires, thoughts, and intentions .. and the evolution of them?

      Does this sum up to mean that the desire to receive in order to bestow (the creature at the level of ZA) is equivalent with bestowal itself (the Creator)?

      I’m sorry, I could probably clean this up a little but I am rushing. I’ll send as-is hoping you will clarify for me.

      Thank you Gianni

      • #315288

        Your thinking is good. But we’re at a level lower than anything the Zohar speaks about. Even if it talks about hell, we’re lower than that, too. There’s nothing lower. It’s an imagination. So, we’re not yet Nukva or Malchut. We have a shattered piece of Malchut, and through it we’re dreaming up our lives. The Zohar works on us on various levels of our desire, and awakens it to the notion that there’s more than just this dream. But we don’t have the vessels yet that can start finding themselves in the mechanics of the Zohar. Those vessels have to be formed, through the Reforming Light.

        • #315338
          Michael
          Participant

          Then this isn’t an attainment the individual makes. This is one that the of whole humanity does together?

          When you say, we’re not yet Nukva or Malchut at the level Zohar speaks about, is that meaning as the collective soul together?

          The Zohar speaks about movements people make as a collective? Of students? Of Masters? All of society?

        • #315339

          Everyone is included in Malchut. To attain spirituality, I need to at a minimum build for myself a mini-model or microcosm of humanity. This is why we form groups called tens. In fact, a person can’t depict to himself more than ten, even if he thinks he has before him all of humanity. So, he needs to build relationships towards a ten like he’d like to have toward all of humanity. Within a ten he can build all those ties, and correct the whole world, as in a fractal where any change instantly is reflected in all the fractals.

        • #315341
          Michael
          Participant

          And then the group begins climbing 125 degrees, together. Only together. If he’s by himself he has no points with which to build the Tree of Life. Can’t be done alone, inside? Even with a populated mind?

        • #315342

          Each is “judged” by the Upper Force, whether he is ready to enter spirituality, by the extent to which he uses what is available to him. If the Creator provided him a world in which there are friends to connect with physically, he must, if only virtually, he must; if he’s living hundreds of years ago when neither were available because just a handful in a generation were awakened, then let’s say he could do it in a sort of virtual way, as if in potential.

        • #315401
          Michael
          Participant

          I vaguely remember Rav Laitman saying a man could be on Mars and make his correction if .. something .. I don’t remember the rest .. if he had the right inner configuration? .. something like that. I saw the video a while ago. I have no idea which one it was.

          I’m definitely not him – the man on Mars, but I wanted to ask.

          I was born in Pisces, famously introverted by Nature, and even I know I cannot move forward very far without others.

          Thank you

           

        • #315403

          Being not drawn to connection is actually a gift if one really wants to be a Kabbalist. Then, every action of connection I do I have an inner demand for it to be tied to the goal of creation.

        • #315412
          Michael
          Participant

          I know. I feel it.

          I began ‘seeking’ 25 years ago and I remember sitting with others, brainstorming about what could be, and I loved it. I could do it for hours, even though none of us really knew what we were talking about.

          Then, it went away. I didn’t know one single person who cared anymore and I began wondering if it was even real.

          It was. And the Creator gave me you guys to bring me the rest of the way.

          I haven’t joined a group yet, but I will. I know I have to.

    • #303528
      NAT
      Participant

      why do inner Light and Surrounding Light clash? (Bitush)

      • #303574

        Because there is pressure from the Light, to receive it. I also want to receive it. However, I must not receive it. So these forces collide.

    • #303485
      Denys
      Participant

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    • #301690
      Anayo Nzute
      Participant

      hello Gainni

      will it be right to say that the kli expels the light in other to create otiot which will become the right vessel to recieve the light with the right intention.

      • #301815

        We can’t say that it’s planned this way by the Kli, as here we are talking about a process that the Upper Light is moving the Desire through. But that outcome you describe is, of course, in the overall Plan of Creation.

    • #301437
      Ali Nadalipour
      Participant

      Hi nice bro.whats the relation between ohr hozer and nekudot olam?

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