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    Accept that the Thought of Creation IS Perfection NOW. The Creator’s Thoughts do not leave their Source.  And His Thoughts are instantaneously manifest in Eternity.  This means that, although the ego ‘I’ that seems to be who I am, is really an illusion.  Actually, I Am Perfection NOW, in Eternal Oneness with Him.

    John
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    Dear Gianni, Thanks again to the Creator for this great Kabbalah Teaching and these uplifting and informative forums.

    You say that the Zohar gives some “hints as to what happens after, “the final correction”, but Kabbalah does not teach about them.”  Perhaps, but perhaps not.  In one of the books, “Attaining The Worlds Beyond”, I read that True Kabbalah Knowledge comes directly from Above, and fills all the senses and the intellect simultaneously.  But this only happens to those who have already experienced it.  Reading the books will not do it alone.  Even doing all the practices taught by Kabbalah correctly and diligently will not do it.  Ultimately it is the Creator who Reveals Himself to each of His Creations, in His time and in His Will.

    This is why, ultimately, the whole idea that ‘you’ and ‘I’, and all of ‘us’, have any control or choice over this ultimate Revelation has to be abandoned.  In another path, this is called the “delusion of doership”.

    The next step after the final correction is just Oneness, not adhesion.  Because the final state is not a state of ‘you’, and ‘I’, separated over ‘here’ and the Creator over ‘there’, no matter how ‘tightly’ we are adhering together.  And this is never a “doing” on ‘our’ part.  It happens when it happens, all according to His Grace.  ‘You’ and ‘I’ may diligently study Kabbalah, or any other Spiritual Teaching, for many lifetimes, and not get this Final Revelation of Oneness with the Creator.  And, there are instances of very coarse egotistical people suddenly becoming totally spiritual.  His Will, not ours.

    This does not in any way imply that studying Kabbalah and applying the principles and practices of “free will” taught here should be given up.  It just needs to be always in the fore of Awareness that, as quoted above, “the Creator really runs the show”.

    Blessings to all.

    John
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    Thank you Beloved Gianni, for your kind response.  I can see clearly now, based on your response above: “The end state is Creator & Creature”, and, “We remain separate but similar in quality and then we’re together with Him as partners”, that Kabbalah is not a complete teaching.  This is definitely not a criticism at all, but just an observation.  Separation, in the way Kabbalah teaches, is definitely a “fantasy”, not the “end state.”

    But, It is all in the Creator’s Will, and His Will is Perfection.   All teachings are His Will, and everyone who is participating in any school of religion or Spirituality is simply carrying out the Creator’s Perfect Will for them.  It’s all good, always.

    Blessings to all.

    John
    Participant

    Why do Kabbalists teach that ‘we’, ‘you’, and ‘I’, all of ‘us’, are Actually, Factually, in Truth, separated from the Creator by our inborn ‘will to receive’ when the Kabbalists themselves tell us that this illusion of separation all a “fantasy” of the Creator?

    The paragraph below is from, “Kabbalah, Science and the Meaning of Life”, page 33:

    “In this state, when an individual in our world wants to discover the Creator, the desire will seem to come first. Thus, a person will be able to give to the Creator out of free will, and this will constitute one’s form of free giving. You might say that from the perspective of the Creator it is nothing but a fantasy, and that the Creator really runs the show. Although this is true, it does not diminish the fact that from the perspective of the creature, the concealment of the Creator enables the creature to feel independent.”

    It is obviously True then, from the writings of the Kabbalists themselves, that this whole scenario of a separation between the Creator who Bestows, and His Creature who only receives, is Actually just a “fantasy” from the Creator’s “perspective”.  “the Creator really runs the show.”

    So the Creator sets this whole illusion up as His own “fantasy”, that His primary and essential Quality is “Bestowal”, and then He creates a creature opposite to his essential Quality – with essentially a “will to receive”;  He then plays out this whole game:  of inversion of our will to receive to a will to bestow, climbing the 125 steps, Torah and mitzvot of 613 “correction”,  and the final “adhesion” to Him  – all in His own Mind, His Divine and Perfect “fantasy”.

    So “the perspective of the creature”, in the multitude of “shattered” fragments, is Actually the Creator’s “fantasy”, and not a Fact at all.  He remains Eternally and Everlastingly ONE.  “the concealment of the Creator” from the creature, is Actually a “concealment” that He, Himself, places in His own Mind, as a part of His “fantasy.”

    So why does Kabbalah teach, on the one hand, that this is all a “fantasy” of the Creator’s, and then teach, as Fact, that the Creator’s ‘fantasy” is Real?  Why not just teach the Actual Truth,  that the Creator is Eternally ONE, that our seeming “individual life” is Truly an illusion, that there is none else besides Him?  Why all this elaboration on the illusion, the inversion, the 125 steps, etc.?

    Why not just teach techniques that the seeker can implement to point their Attention directly at this “fantasy”, to look within their own Beingness and become directly Aware of the Reality of the Creator as what I AM?

    Thank you.  Blessings to all.

    John
    Participant

    Thank you, Beloved Gianni, for your kind response.

    Yes, “a space for free choice”, as you say, is a part of the Kabbalah Teachings.  And yes, it is also the teaching of other Spiritual paths, that opposites resolve into One as the student “climbs” to higher and higher levels of Spiritual “evolution”.  Like the model of the Tree of Life, there is the right-hand pillar of Mercy, the left-hand path of Severity, and the middle path of Perfect balance in Him.

    But all of these teachings are still at the lowest levels of Spiritual Truth.  They are a necessary part of the Teachings, not just in Kabbalah, but in most of the other paths available to Truth-Seekers around the world.  When the “part” has not even the slightest Awareness that Oneness is all there IS, then the Teaching has to begin with addressing the “part” as if it really is an individual, and that free choice is really available.

    This is all the Creator’s Program, His Perfect Will, to unfold His Perfection, to His “creatures”, and allow them this “space for free choice”.  This is all good, all just exactly and precisely what the Creator initially has Chosen to give out as Truth.

    What this ‘I’, this aspect of the Creator writing Here, is bringing to the Awareness of all students of this Kabbalah Path to Truth, is that ultimately, in the final stroke of Revelation, the Creator Awakens Itself, in ‘you’, in ‘me’, in all of ‘us’, as Himself.  There never was a ‘you’ or a ‘me’ that was a separate creature, with opposite characteristics, unholy, selfish desires, etc.  Time and Space, these seemingly isolated corporeal bodies, planets, stars, galaxies, etc., all that seems to be His Creation, apart from Him, at the opposite end of His Holiness, in terms of form, is really just a game He plays with Himself.  There is no other.

    We can seem to “choose” to pick our environment and use the “ten” to facilitate an easier correction, read the coded words of the Zohar to further this correction process along, and advance through the unfolding Reshimot through the next level and the next and the next, to the final 125th step to Perfect Adhesion with the Creator, and this is all one of the best games in the world of Spiritual teachings today.

    But there is only the Creator.  It is all His Free Will, all His Doing, not ‘yours’, or ‘mine’.   But until the final Revelation, the Teachings will speak in this manner.  And His “Work” is already Done, Complete, Finished, right HERE, right NOW.  There is no time and space.  There are no steps in Eternity.  There IS no ‘other’ way for His Perfection to BE.  But we can all pretend that we really are separate creatures, advancing to our highest perfection.  This is all His Will.

    It is seen in the posts and the questions of these Beloved Kabbalah students that there is a great desire for Truth and Spiritual fulfillment, to uplift the world with the Bestowal of the Creator’s Giving.  This is wonderful.  The ‘I’ writing HERE, is greatly Blessed to be in this group and in these Kabbalah Teachings.

    So the intention HERE is to just share this Awareness:  it’s all good, even when it seems ‘bad’.  There’s no need for concern, no need for confusion, no need to fear failure.  You are already in the Creator, intrinsically, inextricably, and Eternally One with Him.  The Teachings are just a great game to come “Home” to your Truth Truth, as Him.

    Blessings to all.

     

     

    John
    Participant

    Below is a quote from, “Kabbalah, Science and the Meaning of Life”, page 31:

    “The root of the Hebrew word Nivra (created being) stems from the word Bar (outside). Thus, the term “creature” or “created being” refers to something or someone outside the Creator’s will.”

    Please explain how the above quote can be True, how can the “created being” actually BE outside of the Creator’s Will?  Kabbalah teaches that the Creator is all there IS, and all that is Created IS His Will because there is no opposing Will or Force.

    It is Known in this aspect of the Creator, that referring to any of aspect of Creation as being somehow “outside” of the Creator’s Will is a non sequitur.  It can’t possibly follow that He can Will something into Reality, and have this something not be His Will.  The Creator is Perfect, and His Creations are Perfect, in the instant of their Creation.

    We can speak about the “Whole”, and the ax that can cut out a “part”, and speak about that “part” as being “apart” from the Whole.  And then this seemingly separate “part” goes through a process of “correction” and reunification with the Creator.  This can be a part of the Kabbalah Teaching, for His Divine Purposes.  But His Essence is Eternally imprinted in all that the Creator Creates.  So there can never be an Actual part of Creation that is outside of His Perfect Will. In Fact and in Truth there is just One, and He IS that ONE. As one of the Creator’s Infinitude of Aspects, ‘I’ am Eternally at One with Him.  There is no “other” way to BE.

    How does Kabbalah explain this quote above, in Light of the Creator’s Unity and Perfection?

    Thank you.  Love and Blessings to all.

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