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VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, I have 2 questions about article 69, Shamati:
1. what is the Meaning of the “the coming of the Messiah” in Kabbalah?
2. The article refers to the link between internal correction versus external correction, for me there is a bit of a language, confusion, because in the German translation it sounds as if all the internal corrections need to be accomplished first, before any external correction could follow, whereas I understood from the English translation, the internal correction needs to come first, but bit by bit through the internal corrections the external worlds may change,too. This seems to be fundamentally different, because in the first way it would mean we have to wait for all the internal corrections to be made before anything can change in this world, where is in the second version I understand that each internal correction may also have an impact on the external worlds. But maybe I’m totally on the wrong track with both?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, how can we work out how to deal with this momentum of having to flip back into corporeality with all the beastly rules and exploitation going on, after moments of connection and contemplation in the spiritual realm? I wish to be able to give the right credit to both, but especially after moments of connection, reading articles, that really change the inner states or perception, I feel this flip back into corporeality to be rough… like leaving a place of color and going back to a black/white place. With which inner preparations should we take this “ flip” and the possibly felt, inherent “loss” of connection / “colours”?
VerenaParticipantThank you, that’s been immensely helpful ☺️
VerenaParticipantHi, Gianni, sorry, I accidently posted this in the wrong thread…and the question was too roughly shaped… so I put it here again:
What is a description and truly the meaning of a friend in Kabbalah that allows to open up deeper layers of connection and work on them? I have been thinking about this for a while, and as the topic comes up again now, I thought maybe to ask . I understand it’s important not to repeat the patterns of relationships we find in corporeality, but if I stick to your allegory of the dojo dojo … which usually I do, because in general it helps me a lot to restrain myself more and stay focused in the work… in terms of the definition of friends and connection it confuses me.
me… If I simply maintain the attitude of a working environment or a sports club…whoever is there to train with, it’s fine as long as everyone sticks to the rules… I suppose it’s really good to get the work started, helpful to build a functional circle, to maintain the text work… but then…how do we get to deeper layers of connection if we limit ourselves to this? How do we make sure we develop real love of friends, and not a reading circle? How do we get to bestowal if we keep everything in the virtual realm of a lab, ignoring any corporeally induced pain/state towards each other? Would that not be using the friends… as training partners… rather than really wanting to be for them, care about them, wanting to bestow to them? I used to train Karate and Judo… and it was easy basically to work with any partner… due to the rules. But it equally meant, no connection needed. Now, I feel training „love of friends” in a spiritual dojo is of course truly something different… but if we shut out all the parts that come from corporeality, what remains? And how can we be true in our work if we pretend whatever the friends go through, needs no place there? This might be a too one-sided interpretation of the dojoallegory, but I did that, because this is the point where I don’t get a clear understanding of the work and of implementating love of friends , while sticking to the allegory at the same time.
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, …what is a description of a friend in Kabbalah that allows to open up deeper layers of connection and work on them? I have been thinking about this for a while, and as the topic comes up again now, I thought maybe to ask . I understand it’s important not to repeat the patterns of relationships we find in corporeality, but if I stick to your allegory of the dojo … it sounds like pretending to open one‘s heart in a limited surrounding of virtual expressions, related to text work… that‘s it. But why is it called “friend”then? And what’s the moment of deeper connection if we keep everything out and just tell ourselves, we are in a working environment?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni,
About the article on giving of the Thorah… I understood that the giving of the Thorah is an everlasting spiritual process and that the light of the Thorah shines to the full extent all the time, but we cannot grasp it (like with our eyes we cannot perceive the sunlight at night). Is it that the light is always there to the full extent on the spiritual journey we discover bit by bit as we discover degree after degree? And if yes… is the (changing, as we develop) light of the Thorah itself a goal to look out for, or rather like a lightpost guiding the way to reach the goal? So… in our work… internally and in the connection with our friends, how shall we relate to the importance of sensations related to the light of the Thorah?
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