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VerenaParticipantHi, In spirituality, is there a difference between egoism versus destructiveness? Like „receiving to receive“ versus „harming to receive“? I suppose, both can be formed in feelings, thoughts and actions, but is both on the level of „egoistic desire“ or is there a difference, because whereas egoism can at least be neutral to its environment, destructiveness will essentially cause harm.
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, just starting with the young group, I have got a practical question… how can I distinguish between a psychological effect of the work versus a spiritual effect? For example, when I read in the Zohar, I can perceive it makes a difference. When I take part in a Workshop, it makes a difference. I can sense it‘s about connection, it’s not always the same sensation, so I perceive something is happening there. Since I am working in mental health, I am used to analysing things, group work, self-reflection, all that, and I dare say there is a profound difference if I compare it to spiritual work. But how can I distinguish between what is an effect of feeling. welcome, equal, appreciated due to this open-hearted environment versus true spiritual sensations. Or in case of the Zohar, how can I distinguish between maybe just wanting this sensation, like a placebo, versus simple experiencing it?
VerenaParticipantThank you so much , just for clarification, does that mean that our wordly emotional or social structures as well as the differenciation into male and female, including the natural roles within a family bond, also are branches or imprints that relate to roots in spirituality?
VerenaParticipantHi, reading in the Zohar, I got some questions about the spiritual structures and their properties, as I am not not sure if I understood or interpreted in any way correctly:
1. Would it be correct to say there is a differentiation of the forces into paternal (Hochma), maternal (Bina) and children (Zeir Anpin- son, Malchut-daughter)? And does the interaction between these structures correspondingly show up as branches in human relationships as well, or is this solely a spiritual structure?
2. I understood, that in the way Hochma, Bina, Zeir Anpin and Malchut interact, there is a way of transferring the light Ohr Hochma from Hochma to Bina to Zeir Anpin and Malchut, as well as from Zeir Anpin to Malchut ( Panim be Panim) but also a way of blocking this transfer in Achor be Achor. This is raising quite a few question… are both process PBP and ABA natural processings of light, equally needed, or is PBP the „altruistic“ way of the light being processed, and ABA the „egoistic“ way, so that PBP would be a desired state and ABA be a less developed state? And again is there in terms of branches a corresponding process in how humans relate to each other, thus PBP leading to pleasure and ABA to suffering?
3. Could Bina be considered the primary „maternal force“ , as it is completely devoted to bestowal and to the Light of Mercy? As as it says Bina is relating to Zeir Anpin as to a „son“ and to Malchut as to a daughter, is this why Bina can deliberately fall into Zeir Anpin to correct him and why Malchut can ascend above Bina and why ZON can raise a prayer MAN to Bina ewoking the desire to bestow in Bina? Because, just thinking from a human perspective, thatś what a mother would do…
4. And then, would Hochma be considered a primary „paternal force“, linked to the Light of Wisdom, and is this what is giving strength to the Partzufim and thus can change their state from Katnut (small) to Gadlut (big)?
VerenaParticipantI just wanted to drop a big „thank you“ for answering all the questions. I hope it’s not bothering in any way. Probably it’s just this beginner stage…, It‘s like being exposed to some really new form of matter… it’s easy to open a book and read, but so beautiful and hard to grasp what is really meant … and that is raising so many questions. It’s a bit like being exposed to some new, and very precious material for artistry work, and while I can study the texture and formal use, I know, I will not be able to go without the sensed attainment, which only adds to the longing to grasp it. And there are all the different layers on which things can be understood… which makes it even more precious but also confusing, so thank you for that help and everyone‘s patience. I will try not to ask too much☺️
VerenaParticipantThank you, I am wondering… should I think of this like a child wanting to please the parents? Is it a cognitive decision to „want to please“ while being clothed in a human body? Or is it deeper… like naturally getting back to the source, one comes from, not so much in terms of oneś own will, but rather feeling this as some sort of deep longing for unity? To me this is quite opposite, because the first way would be rather directive, the creator would be outside me, and I would cognitively thrive to get to adhesion, the second would be rather through letting go… it would stem from an inner longing for this unity, I dońt know if that makes sense, but it feels different in the approach how to get there.
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