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    Gil
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    • #430622
      Katrina Leeks
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      Are the Reshimot the structure for the Kelim? If so, does the Surrounding Light refine the Reshimot and hasten progression? I think the Screen can also aid with that, as its sense is outwardly focused. The Kelim can only sense reception (the interior) without a screen. But after a screen is acquired, do the two work together? Sort of like we use our Right and Left Lines? Am I putting this together correctly?

       

       

      • #430639

        The Reshimot define the future form. For example, we’re in a broken perception. Its unity is what’s ahead for us. The form of that unity is predefined. There are better and worse ways to realize the Reshimot. If it lands on us, it’s horrible. If we run toward connection, it’s wonderful. The Surrounding Light we activate brings it about optimally.

    • #430600
      Clara
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      Are there, in the spiritual worlds, also structures containing 12 or 13 elements? I have red in Shamati an article which indicated to this, unfortunatly I can’t find it again…

      • #430605

        We can find any number we want, depending how we count. For example, 12 partzufim in Atzilut.

    • #430590
      Verena
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      Hi Gianni, there is just one more question adding to this: what is the essence of a piece of Kabbalistic music, say, you would want to write one. I understand how the “classics” came into being. But there are a lot of beautiful pieces on soundcloud.  Now, what is the essence of composing them? Doing it with friends? Trying to feel the purpose of love, connection and unity? Raising a prayer?

      I understand with other pieces of music, artists express themselves and their connection to this world including all the inner states. But what about Kabbalistic music?

      • #430604

        Have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo44wb1j-bQ

        We need to “express our inner ‘moo’.” The one that comes from our Point in the Heart, as removed as possible from our other inclinations.

        The essence of our music, though it lacks the depth of a Baal HaSulam piece, written from the heights of the spiritual world – is that we do it together, there’s no star, it’s an expression of the love between the friends, their nullification to one another, that it’s only about this love between us, and that when the friends hear it, it’s easy for them to sing along. Baal HaSulam song lyrics are ‘li li li li…” and that’s actually great.

        • #430608
          Verena
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          Thank you so much, Gianni, for your answers, and this beautiful clip, this is so helpful! I feel so much has clarified, just it opened up one last question…I am wondering if a Kabbalistic song can actually come from one single individual  (if yes, probably only someone who really feels that connection from deep within) , or if essentially it is carried by what would be felt in the center of a ten, carried by the love that resides in the connection and nullification of the many? Expressed differently, does the song “get” its power through the intention with which it is played or listened to, or does it “have” a power (I don’t know if power is the right word… but even though there were all the doubts about the purpose of songs expressed in the clip, I feel , the Kabbalistic songs to be like a power plant for connection). And finally, I wonder if  the words used in a song can actually express the ‘inner moo’  or will rather hinder us from getting there, as the mind will relate them to memories from corporeal life… thus, can we listen to these thongs innocently like children (which is what I do most of the time), or do we have to form our intention first?

        • #430640

          It could be from an individual if they have true spiritual feelings. But there’s also a story that Baal Shem Tov paid a drunk klezmer musician on the street to play for him, to uplift his spirits, so from slightly uplifted spirits he could begin more correct internal work. We can use the music of our friends all the more so, without overthinking it.

    • #430586
      Verena
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      Hi, we have been studying about the meaning of music in our ten… now, this was really a beautiful experience, because music can touch the point in the heart very directly, it seems. In Melodies of the upper World Part 1, it was described,  how the perception of music changes as you develop. So, it was said,  a piece may seem sad if you hear it with most peoples’ point of perception, i.e. feeling only lack/deficiency of the vessel , whereas a Kabbalist, who is adhered to the upper force, might only feel excitement. Then I really started to wonder, how our layers of existence intertwine.What is the connection between our point in the heart with the body/mind/heart trias we run our lives with? Is the life we lead anything more than just a basic corporeal programme needed to start the spiritual programme? Does it actually have any spiritual relevance? Or could we just have ANY heart/mind/body trias to go with, ANY random life story, ANY set of experiences in life-good or bad-and it doesn’t matter at all, because we will leave it behind when we die anyways? Currently it feels to me that the set of  heart/mind body we receive when we are born is just like a functional suit designed for us to experience things in a certain way and grow through through the given experience. Could it be like this?

       

      • #430601

        That’s what it is, a meat suit. Its experiences are no more profound than those of a costume, or those in the lives of cattle. Whatever we’re doing in our lives, isn’t called human, but a unique iteration of animal life, like dolphin life has its specifics, ant life its specifics. So, we do many things without achieving what we should, like some tribe that found a car but only uses it to dance on top of it or something. We’re dancing upon the Earth, when we’re supposed to use it as a springboard to an alien dimension – of bestowal and love and connection.

    • #430534
      Kristin
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      When one experiences a greater fear of leaving the path vs staying on the path , is this what is described in the writings as believing in “reward and punishment ” or is this something else entirely ?

       

      Thank you.

      • #430568

        It’s something higher. But fearing that I will leave the past is significant. Usually a person is convinced that he will never leave the path because he believes he is in control of himself.

    • #430483
      Katrina Leeks
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      I completed the 4 preliminary courses, but I missed the zoom meeting offered in the 4th class. Now I don’t know where I fit in. Will attending the zoom meeting for course 4 get me on the right track? I don’t want to intrude on anyone’s group.

      • #430485

        Don’t worry, Katrina! You haven’t missed anything logistical. You’ll still be invited to the next round of Young Group when it starts.

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