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The topic of religion has come up this week on one of the morning lessons I heard and then within our Young Group. It seems perhaps religion starting out from egoism could also be imagination? meaning if someone were to read the Torah and not be in the spiritual leveling which that item was written for , and then take that literally with in the means of the corporeal world, and then create a system out of that in the corporeal world, however also , Religion does teach us to be moralistic and all things are from The Creator as there is none else beside Him. It does help us to realize that we are not alone in a sense . That their is a force beyond us that we are not in control of. Religion can also be used to be guided to truth of Kabbalah . So on one hand I feel like both things can be true . That religion can be both. I think my question is , what is the role of imagination in my ego? can it be used to bestow ? I just know that when I am uncomfortable my imagination and creativity can think of ideas that suit me and in turn others but in the long run the imagination came forth to benefit me in some way , or does our imagination change as we do?
I hope this makes sense.
Thank you.
Hi Kristen,
The imagination is simply the thought that came to realize some desire I have.
When my desires change, I have different thoughts – because, again, thoughts are only the upshot of the desire.
Response from Gianni: When my desires change, I have different thoughts… –
1- Is that why they always say that everything depends on the desire?
2- Is that the reason why we need to build this great deficiency for spirituality? To build something you never had requires a lot of labour.
3a- That means our desire for spirituality needs to be very strong like the desire for corporeality?
3b- If yes, then, should we ask the Creator, that the same desire for corporeal pleasure He gave us, He should also give us the same measure for spiritual pleasures? And by that we will be able to have His thought. Because I heard that the Creator wants to give us His thought.Thank you
It seems like a “correlation, not causation” situation. I have heard in our sources that have pointed out that individuals are more malleable in the three states Todd mentions: confusion, mild intoxication, and fatigue. However, the key factor is not the substance itself but the state of mind—particularly, the state of decreasing intellectualization?
The Creator didn’t arrange reality such that there are substances that can induce spiritual advancement. It’s only through one’s inner work, through our reality. If a substance is for detaching me from the regularity of our reality, it’s also certain that it detaches me from the ability to work spiritually since the Creator made the reality ideal for this work as it is.
Hello, after the retreat a month ago, many serious health issues appeared in our Ten. What is going on?
We can’t connect the two. Do health issues suddenly appear or are they 40 years in the making? Or were they there, and it’s just that I became aware of them? Or maybe there’s a broader mechanism I’m not privy to. We don’t see how reality works behind appearances. But we can use these opportunities to pray for the ten.
Is there anything i shouldn’t be doing on the Sabbath concerning “studying kabbalah”? What about the man who gathered sticks on the Sabbath… and since im here, a second question on the topic : No work on sabbath, what does “work” mean in kabbalah?
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Hi Brad,
Spiritual Shabbat is an inner state that one might reach on a Wednesday or any other corporeal day. I recommend these posts on the topic:
https://laitman.com/2023/12/the-state-of-shabbat-in-spiritual-work/
https://laitman.com/2014/04/spiritual-sabbath/
https://laitman.com/2024/04/state-of-shabbat-in-the-ten/
Let me know if you have further questions.
Wonderful, so, “work” is working on our “ego” and on Shabbat, we let the upper light do the work, or finish the work.
When you said “shabbat is an “inner state” one might reach on a Wednesday etc . A passage from the Talmud came to my mind, maybe you can tell me if it is hinting to this “inner state ? Or approves this idea “between the lines” so to speak?
Shabbat 69b:4-7
Rav Huna said: One who was walking along the way or in the desert, and he does not know when Shabbat occurs, he counts six days from the day that he realized that he lost track of Shabbat and then observes one day as Shabbat. Ḥiyya bar Rav says: He first observes one day as Shabbat and then he counts six weekdays.
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