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    • #359681
      Ricki
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      On the one hand i have a series of corporeal actions and thoughts at my disposal with which to ‘play’ in the group, and pretend as if we are already within the final correction, but on the other hand how can i know if these actions are true or correct, since i probably have no sensation of the upper force with which i aspire toward? For example i may have an idea of what a sensible and loving action is, that is informed by my life experience and reason, but i have no idea (unless i test it?) if it would lead me away or closer to Him. Also my idea of a thing is usually different to your idea of a thing… how do i reconcile this?

      • #359772

        When one stands before the Upper court, the only question they ask is, “Were you expecting salvation.” This is what matters, and not if my action is right or wrong.

        • #359881
          Ricki
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          What is salvation?

        • #359901

          Being saved from one’s state, which I realized was hopeless. Like one who doesn’t want to pick up his luggage and asks someone to help him, will not get help; but one who already has the luggage on his back and is about to drop it – if he asks for help, most would be willing. The Creator helps when I’ve done what I can, and then request help.

    • #359673
      Ricki
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      If bestowal is indeed intolerable/ opposite to the will to receive, the substance of my being and (current) perception, then how can i possibly rise above such discomfort to be like Him? How do i learn to tolerate such contradiction?

      • #359770

        We need to add something to what we have. It’s something opposite, yes. Instead of a bone, it’s a heart, for example. To become something more complex, less amoebic. It’s not that it’s unpleasant; it’s that I don’t long for it, like I don’t long for a sixth finger. But I can long for it through the influence of the society and the Reforming Light.

        • #359886
          Ricki
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          so what i first see as contradiction (from the perspective of growing pains), i discover was deficiency/ a lack which the upper light comes to fill provided i meet certain conditions?  And what i once had no desire for I discover is an integral part of my body (like the friends) ? And so clinging to the society is vital no matter which state i find myself in?

        • #359902

          Those are the different kinds of work, that from different states I must reach the same: connection.

    • #359646
      zeinab
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      Hi Gianni,

      in many of the articles of Rabash and Baal HaSulam, they constantly mention that we should observer ” Torah and Mitzvot”, however all we do is read the articles. In what way then are we observing ” Torah and Mitzvot”?

       

       

      Thanks

      • #359769

        We have to also do what is described in the articles. Then we will gradually reach the “Mizva” of love of others, which Kabbalists write includes all the Mizvot in it.

    • #359632
      AspiringAltruist
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      How do we know/feel we are giving contentment to the Creator?

      How do we know/feel we are not giving contentment to the Creator?

      • #359634

        First of all, we’re all giving contentment to the Creator, and we’re at the end of correction. What’s missing is that we don’t feel any of that. Therefore, we need to feel and know that we are giving Him contentment. And until that enters my feeling and clear attainment, I can’t say that I’m giving Him contentment.

        If I want a criterion by which to know that I’m not giving Him contentment, that’s easier. I’m not giving Him contentment if I’m not relating to Him and the friends as one, and aiming to give Him contentment through this.

    • #359446
      Peter
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      Another question, when I enter a meeting with my friends, can I think about ‘spiritual strategies’ that I have read about or heard from, or, should I try to completely empty my mind and just focus on the specific thing that we read or discuss at the meeting?

       

       

    • #359390
      Peter
      Partícipe

      From There Is None Else Besides Him:

      ‘The Baal Shem Tov said that he who says that there is another force in the world, namely Klipot [shells], that person is in a state of “serving other gods.” It is not necessarily the thought of heresy that is the transgression, but if he thinks that there is another authority and force apart from the Creator, he is committing a transgression.’

      What is the difference between ‘the thought of heresy’ and ‘if he thinks that there is another authority and force apart from the Creator’?

       

      • #359426

        The thought of heresy is from the sensation that there is more than one force governing reality, and there is no one on the spiritual path (let alone people with no connection to this path) who does not – in certain states – feel that there are multiple forces working on him at a time – as it’s written, “there is no Righteous in the land who does good and did not sin.” But the question is what I do with this multiplicity. Do I go with it and think like others do, or do I work to ascribe each and everything to None But Him, the singular Creator.

        • #359443
          Peter
          Partícipe

          Thank you, that’s helpful.

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