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- December 17, 2025 at 11:44 am EST #471702
EdPartícipeIn our Ten, we were discussing ascents and descents. Do we consider a descent something that is corporally happening to us, such as a tree fell on my car, my dog ran off with my neighbor’s cat, or Grandma got run over by a reindeer? Or is a descent a spiritual feeling, such as doubting the sages, lack of taste in the work, and frustration with our advancement? Or is it both?
- December 17, 2025 at 3:01 pm EST #471716
Gianni – KabU InstructorModeratorThe Creator has the whole reality to talk to you with. Some can respond to more inner language. Some only respond to external language.
- December 15, 2025 at 11:40 am EST #471469
Kimadigital7PartícipeWhat should we do as a group of ten if a friend decides not to attend the meeting because he cannot understand what prayer truly means? But he says he is still with us on a spiritual level.
What should we do so that we don’t push him further away, but instead bring him closer? Should we simply acknowledge his position?
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- December 15, 2025 at 12:15 pm EST #471478
Gianni – KabU InstructorModeratorNo, this is just one of the myriad ways that the ego uses to distance a friend closer to the door, until he is all the way out the door. There’s no such thing that I’m with the ten on a spiritual level, but would not realize my chance to be with them on a corporeal level. If I’m in love, would I choose to only exchange letters, or think about her, when I could talk to her on the phone, or be only on the phone when I could be physically with her? No. Therefore, to love the friends is to be with them, supporting them in everything, as much as I can. Whatever I withhold, so from me, spirituality will be withheld.
But if the friend is stepping away, we should gently hold onto him as much as we can. But no, there’s no such thing as a slight distancing from the ten that is spiritually healthy.
- December 15, 2025 at 1:22 pm EST #471487
Kimadigital7PartícipeWhat should we do to hold him as much as we can? Is there any writings of Baal HaSulam about what we can do precisely? If yes, Please, provide the link so that we can read it. Thank you.
- December 16, 2025 at 3:31 pm EST #471611
Gianni – KabU InstructorModeratorIf you did what you could, that’s it. It’s like a drowning person. You swim to them and try to help them. If they don’t try to swim at all, you let them go. Otherwise, you’ll drown together.
We can only be a support system for the willing.
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- December 15, 2025 at 1:00 am EST #471401
VerenaPartícipeWhen digging a bit deeper into the options of working in this frame we are taught, it seems like a little bee hive… many options to choose from…many possible obligations to choose from…however, it’s impossible to turn towards everything simultanesusly. So, how do you know where to to turn to? How do you know what needs to be in the center of each effort?
- December 15, 2025 at 11:22 am EST #471465
Gianni – KabU InstructorModeratorI always need to aim at the heartfelt connection in the ten that gives the Creator the opportunity to be revealed. It’s only different in each state, how I scrutinize that I have nothing else to look for, because in each state the Creator confuses me in novel ways, so that I think there’s something other than this to do.
- December 15, 2025 at 12:50 am EST #471400
VerenaPartícipeHi Gianni, what is the difference between „ten“ and a group of people that study the sources together? In other words… what makes a ten a ten?
- December 15, 2025 at 11:19 am EST #471464
Gianni – KabU InstructorModeratorThroughout the world you have people who study sources together. A ten knows they are a ten, agrees on what their gathering should yield (love of friends, revelation of the Creator in their connection, the goal of Creation), and asks for this goal from the Upper Light.
- December 13, 2025 at 11:48 pm EST #471214
Kimadigital7PartícipeI have been having this feeling; it first happened in the ten. That we need to reveal the Creator from the will to receive. But I was having so many thoughts about what could be the will to receive,…associating it with how bad I feel some resistance in the work.
I asked because, during this morning’s lesson, I had a strong feeling, like an ‘Aha’ moment, that we need to reveal the Creator within the will to receive. But now I just have only this one thought, the will to receive, that’s where I need to reveal the Creator
I don’t know if that is right. Please, I need guidance. I don’t know if I communicated my thoughts to you correctly.
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- December 13, 2025 at 8:50 am EST #470073
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PartícipeHello, during my first ten group I left because I could not handle something. That thing was someone quoting bible, like king james type , not Torah and comparing it to our lesson at hand. The instructor Leo I believe addressed this issue in a video but I am still unsure if that was a correction I needed to make , seeing that person as being “at fault” , was that just a need for my correction and to change my perception of that person ?
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- December 13, 2025 at 10:51 am EST #470258
Gianni – KabU InstructorModeratorHi John,
I’m not familiar with that situation, but in the Young Group we need to be understanding that everyone has a part of the advice that is hard for him to hear because it seems to cancel something I had hoped would be true; or something I thought I already had some proximity to or even attained, turns out to be on a step that is still very far from me. Also, sometimes I mistakenly believe someone is breaking the rules, while it’s me who needed to correct my perception of the friend.
So, best is to check with KabU staff, and we’ll see if there’s a violation of the principles of a spiritual group or not. For now, there’s an arbiter, so that beginners can save everyone time spent on silly mistakes.
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