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Hi Gianni, there are places when corporeal matters and spiritual matters intertwine, such as a classes, YG or ten. How to make sure that one is not used as an excuse for the other? Take gender issues. When for example it’s not about complementing but seemingly favoring one gender over the other… it’s easy to excuse such impressions by saying „that is just the ego and you have to go above that“ Still, there may be a corporeal dysbalance and injustice actually happening…and if I would shy away from naming this and from asking a dialogue, only because I am afraid to be called an egoist, I feel it might cause more harm than good. In fact it might even shut my mouth if I come to witness abusive behavior (I didn’t yet, but I feel there is a risk, because we are all humans). What to do then? Take it in, because we shall love the friends even if they hate us? Or ask and try to clarify? And what if it includes some hierarchy?
I think there’s a lesson in young group pertaining to men and women, and you can ask questions about that there.
Yes, I will if it matters for the group. It was just an example. It is more about the question how to make sure that in a spiritual society or group such very strong sentences as „you have to go above this“ or „this is just the ego“ are used correctly. Basically, I can turn everything into either direction- spiritual or corporeal, and using such comments, may be helpful to get to deeper scrutiny or may be misleading if they cover up corporeal intentions. Now, I probably would bring doubts that keep me from learning to the ten, that is for sure. But what should be our measurement? If we wanted to, we could justify anything with „love your friends, even if they hate you“ ( It didńt happen yet, but it was the weeks`s topic). Is there any measurement for this part of the work? As said we could justify anything with these sentences, which is why I am trying not to use them too much. Itś like an eletric screwdriver in the hands of a 3-year-old…. I dońt want to accidently poke it into my eyes, and go blinded… So , how to use that wisely? Which measurement do we need to apply for the corporeal part that we always bring in the spiritual work, too?
But if you start measuring, there’s no hope of success here. Instead, the contents of our gatherings should be only spiritual, as much as possible, and I should justify everything. We don’t understand yet how much the Creator is going to play with our minds and hearts specifically in this regard – so if I allow myself any room to calculate, there will be no end to it. I’ll never know where the line is accurately. What will I measure with? My ego?
Therefore, the group is an environment like a womb where only what we read in Rabash exists. With what intentions though? I don’t care with what intentions – simply on the surface is enough. That’s a fence for the ego to stay within. This gives space for every friend to only work above reason. It’s a very harsh condition for the ego and the whole Young Group is practically to explain where the fence is and explain why only within it there’s a chance of climbing the ladder to the spiritual world.
We can check the environment ONCE. If everything checks out, I’m not allowed to check any more – when I become “smarter”, “wiser” and so on. I check that everyone is here to reach the spiritual goal, and that this is the right method, meaning the one I feel is close to my heart – and that’s it. After that, I have to regard all as spiritual exercises.
Hi Gianni,
Husband and I came to the conclusion that the ego can justify anything except for the Creator, even murder. And because we were reading “The Essence of the Wisdom of Kabbalah”, section “Appellations Alien to the Human Spirit”, we wanted to ask, what is the spiritual root of brutal egoistic actions such as murder?
Thank you ❤️
As Baal HaSulam writes, something outside the person is unreal. So I can kill an ant, a fly, a cow, why is a person a problem unless there exist laws and punishment. Therefore there are places where they behead dozens in the public square and it’s a great celebration. Whatever is outside me, unless it gives me pleasure is taking up space and may, god forbid, even take pleasure away from me.
Hi Gianni, I just want to ask if I understood correctly: Is it like we may „use“ our corporeality (like having an encouraging smile..) to enhance spiritual growths for the friends, and we may consider corporeality in that we care about our friends if their corporeality throws obstacles on their path, that consume them internally to a degree that it gets into the way of spirituality? And that it is not asking regularly checking-in, itś about the relevance this corporeal state has for the friends`spirituality, and thus the ten, best adressed once only (unless the state gains new importance/ urgency)? And when we calculate whether to discern any states in the ten, it should equally be this internal calculation- what will be „in it“ in terms of spiritual development for the friends and is this something that really needs the friends, that really is so occupying that it hinders connection?
In the book, Rabash The social Writings, in the article “What to look for in the assembly of Friends, Article 30, 1987-88,” on page 306, first paragraph, Rabash writes, “Thus before he goes to the love of friends, he should read Baal HaSulam’s essay (from 1943) where he clarifies what is the right line..”
Which essay is Rabash speaking of?
Thanks!
The oral Torah is higher than the written Torah because it is transmitted from mouth to mouth, that is, through common Screens between teacher and student. If you wanted to put it in words, no one would understand, these are not words, it’s impossible.
When the people went into exile, they began to write everything down because it was necessary to somehow save something. There was such a desire and a law was passed to allow recording.
The Torah is an instruction for the correct mutual inclusion and unification of people, in which the Creator or life is manifested, which, in principle, is the same. Like when cells in the body are connected, life manifests itself in it, so when people unite with each other, the vital force is manifested at the next level.
There are people who have attained this and described it in their writings. Therefore, everything stated by them is called the written Torah.
There are things that cannot be described. They are revealed only through internal contact between teacher and student, which is called mouth to mouth (mi peh el peh). This is the oral Torah.
How can I ask questions that are a finer ‘image resolution’ than what I’m capable of asking now? Why is the quality and form of what questions i ask so important for development?
The resolving power depends on to what extent you’re integrated with friends. From a smaller Kli, one has less resolution because they’re less incorporated with the matter under discussion.
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