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Can i please have the source quote of Baal HaSulam saying “one has to become secular” to understand attainment. (Apologies if i worded it wrong).
thanks.
Hey Brad,
I’m not sure what quote you’re referring to exactly, sounds like it’s kind of a mix of some things. BHS refers to the “secular” to those who live according to the quality of reception and “religious” as those according to the quality of bestowal. Maybe you’re referring to “secular” which would refer to faith “within reason” and “religious” referring to “above reason”. Not exactly sure, but with those two additions there you might be able to answer your own question. Let me know, thanks!
Hey mrc,
That’s a pretty complex question, but the goal should always be to attain Lishma. The goal however is only clear once you discover you’re working in Lo Lishma. However then you could ask, then we should aim for Lo Lishma? There’s a lot to discern here but for now, as much as we can understand what Lishma is, we should aim for that which will not be in the direction of “potion of death”.
Chris
hi
i saw that Tony Kosinec said: sufism and kabbalah are similar.
in sufism we have a lot of dhikrs and prayers, and base of spiritual progress in it is with them.
what you have in kabbalah?
how i can active sefirot’s in a practical way?
i am researching about kabbalah a few years and the best thing that i found is some names that aliester crowley wroted:
ehieh – yah – yahweh elohim – el and .. ..
i don’t want to connect to others physically
i want stay at home and pray
what kabbalah have for people like me?
Hi Humehr,
Practical work is aiming towards the benefit of others, more than myself, realizing my resistance, requesting strength to go above, receiving a new level of hatred and starting the process over again. This is where everything is revealed, the Sefirot, the upper worlds, the Creator – all of it.
“There’s no coercion in spirituality”. No one will force you to do anything physically. All that matters anyways in the direction of the heart. Each person has their own path, but eventually most people want to strengthen in their work and they’ll feel it necessary to come closer, even physically. “Prayer” is always for one thing – in the direction of greater revelation of the Creator. A person will be given the understanding and sensation that they have nothing to do with bestowal whatsoever and will feel their only hope is to ask the Creator for that quality. He gives it to us. How do we get to that point? Essentially exhausting all of our strength in mind and in heart.
Kabbalah will give you the tools to make it to that point of prayer. It’s a path to that end goal. It’s for anyone and everyone – the Creator has no judgments (He made you exactly that way, after all)!
Chris
hi
I have some questions and didn’t want to use up class time to get my questions answered. it was suggested to me on the class I just attended to use this forum to ask my questions. I started studies a few months ago but needed to be absent for the last 2 months and am now just returning and feel a little out of step:
1. When will I begin with a group of 10?
2. Is it ok to contact friends directly, outside of the classes and groups? i.e. using the chat to send a private message to a friend for the purpose of communicating with them privately
3. I’d like to connect with other friends who are in Israel also. Is there a way for me to do that?
4. I would like to know which books, in which order, I should continue reading. I’ve already read several books and would like to continue reading. I prefer getting to the bottom line (no puns intended – between left, right, middle) rather than having to wade through so much content, history, explanations, intricacies, etc –
5. Basically, what do I need to do in order to get to a place of love and acceptance with the world? Accept it as it is?? Continue working toward making the world a better place (for all?)
Hi Devorah,
Sure thing, no problem!
1: When you’ve completed the final course and move into the graduate environment.
2: We’d recommend staying in the common areas more than private communication. We’ve just seen if one party is “confused” it will cause double confusion, but that will be more clear to you when you advance and you will see where we were coming from. When you get settled into a ten, the communication will open up more and you’ll know how to “protect” one another from what would be considered harmful to one’s advancement.
3: I wouldn’t say there are any limits to that, but everyone really just works out of their ten. I happen to be in Israel so there’s one for you! Along the way, more emails and numbers will be available just naturally as you start dissemination and integration into the group.
4: That’s fair, but really it just depends on a person’s mood – their states and what’s most suitable at the moment. You can often switch between reading Baal HaSulam and Rabash accordingly, but it’s always handy to have Shamati and the social articles by Rabash always available to dive into.
5: First step towards that is to those you have in your ten. We start small – from “lightest” to “heaviest”. First we have to have a supportive environment to do the work which is hated by our nature, so we need like-minded friends and an environment that helps us overcome our nature. With the outside world there’s none of that. Correcting how I relate to those in the group necessarily make the world a better place. The whole of reality is within me whether I feel it or understand that or not. They’re all within me and I’m connected to them as one – just not consciously…yet!
Group articles:
https://kabbalahmedia.info/en/sources/gr-IHYcOU8k?language=en
Shamati:
https://kabbalahmedia.info/en/sources/hFeGidcS?language=en
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