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    • #391631
      Enrique Rojas
      Participant

      Es necesario corregir el ego para acceder a la percepción de la gran realidad. Ahora bien, ¿cómo puedo iniciar esta corrección de mi naturaleza egoísta para avanzar hacia la equivalencia de la forma con el Creador?

    • #391122
      Kirstin
      Participant

      Thanks.  I found this lesson cryptic – perhaps I missed something.  The problem for me is that the capacity to bestow is directly proportionate to the capacity to receive.

      So one arrives at a logical conundrum that if only everybody wants to bestow, no body will want to receive, and the whole thing will come crashing to nothing.

      Unless I have missed something here… 😉  Didn’t God already make Man in his image, so both must have capacity to receive and to bestow?  However, if I look back over my life, I can see times where people were trying to give me things I could not appreciate for what they look like to me with hindsight.  This is because my perception, at those relevant times was different from what it is now.  That would mean both my capacity to receive might be bigger than it was, as is my capacity to perceive what is being bestowed.

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      • #391596

        Kirstin,
        All of this originated in the thought of creation.  The Creator desired to create a creature and fill it with endless fulfillment.
        From the side of the Creator, that is it, there is no distance between thought and completion of the action.  In spirituality, there is no time, space and motion.
        All of the changes are from the side of creation, from the side of the kli (vessel).
        We have an expression in the wisdom of kabbalah, there is no light without a kli.
        But of course there is light, the whole of reality is filled with His simple light.  What it means is that there is nothing to perceive, literally no reality unless we are perceiving it.  Besides our perception, our limited perception which is only perceiving a tiny, tiny, tiny piece of the whole, beside our perception inside our vessels of perception, there is only endless Light of the Creator.

        Now as we study the spiritual systems and stabalize our new perception inside of us, we discover many processes and we learn them one by one.  While someone may meet Kirstin on the street and say hello to Kirstin, but inside of Kirstin there are many systems, there is the respitory system, the lymphatic system, the circulatory system, the muscular system and many more and they are all doing different jobs and all working in harmony.
        You also need to see the different mechanics of the system to understand your question.
        If we don’t have a desire to receive, then we cannot fulfill the purpose of creation.
        If the car doesn’t have gas, it cannot run, so the car needs an explosion to make the pistons turn.  But if the explosion is not controlled the entire car will blow up.  So yes we need and explosion, but only in the right place at the right time and under the right conditions and everything around the explosion must be perfect as well.
        So we must receive in order to fulfill the purpose of creation, which is to receive endlessly from the Creator,however receiving makes us 100% opposite from the Creator and makes us as far from Him as east is from west.
        So there is a correction on the creation that the vessel will not receive unless it receives with an intention to not receive for itself, which makes it 100% opposite to the Creator, but only to receive because the Creator wants to give, so on the level of the intention, the receiving is actually bestowing.
        Seth@KabU

    • #389579
      Peter
      Participant

      So far we have talked about a man, a human. In the reading for this class we have learned that it is said, ” All of the works are made for him.” Does the teaching of Kabbalah support other life on other planets. Are WE in this alone as the only human life form on the path to God, or are we part of Life that is beyond this planet?

      • #389878

        Peter,
        It’s a big world out there.
        What the wisdom of kabbalah is teaching us requires that we change our focus, change our glasses.
        Imagine looking at the world as a 5 year old vs. looking at the world as a 50 year old man.  It’s the same world, but of course everything is different, you understand that inside a car is an engine, you understand working to earn money to pay for things, a 5 year old lives in the same world but doesn’t understand the mechanics of it.
        Similarly, the world itself doesn’t change, the Upper Light is at rest, only we change and all of the phenomenon that we experience are only the changes in our perception as we come closer and closer to merging with the Light in wholeness, integrality, harmony, love.
        What we are learning is that in all that vast space, some part of the creation developed to begin to perceive itself, who it is, what forces are acting on it, how to attain equivalence with the Upper, bestowing force, that is the human…just that, the part of the entire creation that developed to ask finally, who am I.  And everything else in reality, planets, starts, whoever else is out there, is part of that same perception of ours.
        Seth@KabU

      • #389630
        Logynn
        Participant

        Since the only thing that was created was the singular desire that our collective is composed of, I think it would make sense it includes every single thing in this reality. In a way, it makes the question of alien life kind of irrelevant. Because either they exist and they are part of us, and we will know them when we all come together. Or they don’t exist in this reality. That is my thought on it.

        I also think about all this discussion of the limitations of our five senses. We cannot know if the massive “space” we perceive around us is actually that much matter and space, or just our interpretation of the size of the inanimate level compared to the self we identify as. Or maybe each of us is like in our own holographic universe of our own perception, like a single fiber in a fiber optic cable, and the difference is a mathematical harmonic and not space that separates us. There are a million ideas I can think of how it could work.

        But it all seems irrelevant. (Interesting, and fun to think about, but irrelevant.) Because no matter what it is it still fits with what the Kabbalists say. IMHO

    • #388862
      LORI
      Participant

      This makes sense to me. Thank you

    • #388700
      Raymond Franklin
      Participant

      Shalom,

       

      Thank you for another wonderful lesson. My question is about the nature of reality. Does the wisdom of Kabbalah say that there is no Objective Reality outside of our Subjective Perceptions? Doesn’t Boreh constitute Objective Reality?

      Todah,

      Raymond Franklin

      • #388766

        Raymond,
        Certainly.  He was, He is and He will be, unchanging, forever.
        However besides that, everything else in reality is each one’s perception of that one unchanging thing, each through our own vessels.
        Seth@KabU

    • #387427
      Verena
      Participant

      I dońt know if it fits here, but I am wondering about the meaning of predetermination. What does it mean in terms of our subjective reality in Kabbalah? Is predetermination to be interpreted in the classical way, in that certain events / obstacles will happen to us because itś part of the pre-determined blueprint of our life? Or is predetermination relating to a „pre-life“ agreement to work on a certain state, so that predetermination means we will be pushed until we get there, which would then also mean that the events may change in relation to our response? And what is free choice then? In the first case,would  free choice then only be in the decision to incarnate or not, and in the second, would it be the decision to move on or not?

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      • #389632
        Logynn
        Participant

        I recall somewhere it said that in the real spiritual world everything is complete, One, and infinitely pleasurable. And that time doesn’t exist. That would seem to imply that what we are experiencing now is the every cause and effect in a long chain of events that results in that perfection. As if the end point existed first, and time unfolded backward from there.

        That is how my mind connects the idea of this infinite interconnected machine that Seth mentions, to our reality. As if it wasn’t so much a question of predetermination, but simply… this is everything that had to have happened for that perfect machine to consciously exist in free will and agreement with itself.

      • #388844
        Raymond Franklin
        Participant

        Thank you for clarifying, Seth!

      • #387520

        Verena,
        There is the matter of our perception of reality here.
        There are endless forces operating on you now that you don’t feel or are aware of, they determine what you will eat, how you will react.  Some come from society, some are in your cells, some are in the air.
        We will discover that we like a a part in an infinite machine, totallly interconnected to all of the other parts and everything they do effect me and everything I do effects them.
        Nevertheless, we must behave each day as if whatever is in our power to do we must do.
        This unification of two opposites, this paradox is resolved in a new perception above our mind in the spiritual worlds.
        We will see all of this.
        Seth@KabU

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