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This question is about those proportions of enjoyment at Behina Gimmel (10% or 20%, etc.). Do I understand this correctly if, for example, I am doing something I ordinarily enjoy like eating ice cream or swimming in a cool lake on a hot day, if 10% of my thinking “I am really enjoying this” consists also of the thought “Thank God for this ice cream” or “Thank God for this swim.”
That is, phenomenologically, what am I calculating exactly, and how am I calculating it? Is it the percentage of gratitude that I exert effort to feel in the moment of pleasure, or is it something else?
Does this mean that the thought of the tsaddik becomes 100% gratitude in feeling pleasure, such that it is no longer the pleasure itself that the tsaddik takes pleasure in, but rather the pleasure of the gratitude to the Creator for bestowing the pleasure?
Seraphim,
Rabash uses an allegory about carrying the bag of famous person. Suppose a great kabbalist came to town and you met him at the airport. You would run to carry his bag, and if he tried to pay you, you would say, no, no, I don’t need to be paid, to carry your bag, to do something for you is my reward.
We see there that serving a great person is reward, the work is the reward.
So we see that it is not swimming or eating or even carrying heavy bags that we are concerned with, but our attitude towards the Giver.
This special attitude is called a special light from above as a result of many operations below, that comes and corrects our will to receive at first say 10% as in your example, until we have corrected all of our will to receive, which means piece by piece, absorbing more of the world into myself until I include all the world in my own heart and to justify (l’hatzdik…related to Tzadik) the Creator.
Seth@KabU
The Creator wants us to enjoy everything. I’m starting to get that. But are there lessons in our suffering or are we just failing to see the intention? Is it the flip side of a coin? Great loss teaches us great love? Is awareness necessary? Is consciousness free will aand do we take it with us when we die? Sorry, it’s even hard to verbalize Kabbalah and trying to grasp. Thanks!
Eizabeth,
Everything is part of the picture, all the left and all the right.
There are two matters here, one is the purpose of creation, which is to create a creature and fill it with delight.
And prior to that is the correction of creation, where we correct our vessels to feel pleasure in bestowal instead of in reception. Of course we will always receive and remain as receivers, after all the only creation that the Creator made is a will to receive, so we will remain receiving, but our work is to correct the intention from receiving in order to receive to receiving in order to bestow.So little by little, step by step a new light shines for us and illuminates some darkness and we make a correction on it and then again a new light shines and illuminates some darkness and we make a correction. There are many many emotional discernments along the way and much is sorted in the mind.
The first advice that I would give you hear is to begin to make a line and below the line is your animal life, like all animals, this includes food, family, work, bills, etc. We need to manage our life like normal people (if there is such a thing in this upside down world), but we don’t try to love the person we are making a business deal with and they end up with all the money and we end up with $0.
We make that line and above that line is where we are learning about the wisdom of kabbalah and soon we will start to practice what we learn with the friends that we are studying with. Under that line we are not kidding ourselves that the world is ready to accept “love your neighbor as yourself” and we are getting kicked around from here to there trying to implement what we learn out on the street.
And then later slowly slowly we will see how even the animate and vegetative and inanimate all become included in the spiritual and everything rises with the human.
This is all in front of us.
Step by step, slowly slowly,
Seth@KabU
Hi
When u r talking about keli in these four phases y r not talking about humans only it is about essence of being.i m right, aren’t I?
After watching the screen video, i realize how lost i had been, meaning, that is, as it right now, i had no idea of the conception of what spiritual growth meant. I get it know, and perhaps many of us have achieved such dynamic of accepting for pleasing the host ina unconcious way, but i had no idea what lied concealed from our senses and therefore our mind and thought. Than you.
ok then, when we reach the 4 phase of creation or Malchut, here is where everything array goes wrong, and egoistic desires set us apart from the creator, or iam wrong? and thats what will need to be corrected, right?
Thak you.
Ricardo,
There is no “us” in this study yet, we are still learning the blueprint of creation.
The purpose of creation is to fill creation with good. In order for the Creator to fill creation with all of His good, so creation needs to have an endless desire. So this is malchut, an endless desire.
After that we will learn about additional operations and eventually we will reach the shattering of the vessel of Adam HaRishon which is what you are referring to.
Seth@KabU
Hi Seth. I apollogize I´v fallen behind by a week. Hope you will answer my question anyway.
Is it so, that when I enjoy something, like a meal or a walk in nature, I can “channel” that feeling of joy or satisfaction back to the Creator, by focusing on my intention that I wish for him to feel joy too?
And what about my feeling of gratitude of my own joyfull experience of the Creation. Does gratefullness have any impact on the Creator and the Surrounding Light?
Thank you so much for all your work!
Rune,
You are on the right track.
The will to receive pleasure will always remain, that is the nature of creation, that is what the Creator created.
What will change is the intention from receiving in order to receive that will be inverted to receiving in order to bestow.
Yes, a prayer is either a deficiency for the Light to fill or gratitude.
Seth@KabU
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