Explore inquiries concerning the week 5 lesson and materials, obtaining wisdom from a seasoned Kabbalah instructor.

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    Explore inquiries concerning the week 5 lesson and materials, obtaining wisdom from a seasoned Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #434803
      Helen
      Participant

      We are already in many environments, our families, our friends, our colleagues, our neighbors, and random people we meet. since none else besides him, I would think all those existing environments exist for good reasons? I get it to have a new environment where you can meet people with the same spiritual goal, but how do I or how do Kabu decide the make-up of my 10?  what’s our definition of the right environment for this case? thanks as always and can’t wait to join the group.

      • #434810

        If we’re talking about real spiritual work, one needs an environment of those presently awakened toward the goal of life with a drive so sharp that its tributaries led to authentic Kabbalah. Among these friends, it’s not so important which ten, but it’s good it’s some fixed ten so that against that lenticular spiritual background I can work and accurately measure my growth.

        • #434845
          Helen
          Participant

          got it. now I have finished all classes and it looks like I need to pay another annual fee on top of the annual membership I already have in order to continue the journey… sorry my skeptical mind starts to work again, if there will be so many layers of paid membership, why not spilling it all out upfront? don’t want to scare people away? I get it, but at this point it really leaves a bad taste. not about the payment itself, but somehow it feels deceiving…  I actually emailed the support team before I started this course, they replied and said I do not need to pay another fee, I will be assigned with a group. yesterday I was so excited that I finally finished it, then I was sent to a membership payment page….

        • #434852

          I’m not affiliated with money/memberships, but it’s interesting to know what memberships were like with Kabbalists throughout history. Almost as soon as you entered the study hall, you were approached – and asked to place on the table a jaw-dropping amount of money! I understand this is, as usual, opposite of how we think spiritual things should work. Even if after you left the lesson, the Kabbalist would throw your money out onto the street (which they sometimes did), the teacher had to charge, proportional to the student’s income, a sum commensurate with the value of a wisdom by which one can burst out of the dark bitter radish of this world to the wide wonder of the spiritual world – in a way that the Will to Receive feels it’s paying. Otherwise, the Will to Receive doesn’t allow me to advance spiritually, and I’ll never reach the spiritual world. Whereas to the extent the person pays, the Will to Receive itself demands one’s spiritual advancement rather than digging its heals in against it, even though spirituality is opposite its nature.  These are the conditions from Above. It’s not up to the teacher.

    • #433382
      Rula
      Participant

      How can I choose to raise in the middle line of tree of life? Through yesod, tiphareth, daath…?
      How will I know that I have become a “kli “ and that I attract light in it?

      • #433443

        Hi Rula,

        It’s not yet a question of how, with these or those Sefirot. It’s a question if I have Sefirot to begin with. Without several steps, effort, and time, specifically in a group of students trying to walk the same path, I don’t have sufficient integration with the other parts of my Kli (vessel). When these efforts and the operation of th Upper Light are sufficient, I will have Sefirot like one has their hands and legs. Then we learn how to use them. Until then: more studying with the intention of drawing the Reforming Light.

    • #432939
      Alina
      Participant

      Now i am just a step to graduate. I am concerned to not having  quality time to invest in my learning. Con i go to my one pace  in continuing this journey?

      • #432943

        If you want to continue, continue. At the end of the day, each has their own inner journey between them, where they are – and the Creator. That stretch of road exists, and one has to traverse it, over a series of inner spiritual efforts. If not in this lifetime, then we continue in our next lifetime.

    • #432375
      Logynn
      Participant

      In the past week I saw some things that made me question if I have the right attitude about the Left Line.

      In one of Julian’s videos he described it as something that we should strive to avoid because we will always be given it by the Creator, as we are ready to deal with it. In last week’s “Kabbalah Explained Simply” on YouTube, they talked about the futility of self criticism. And in the final link to the Rav’s blog he talks about not losing your head in the left or the right.

      Previously, my perception was that the Right is faith above reason, where no matter what happens we trust that it is exactly what is supposed to happen according to the Creator’s plan. And when we are in that we feel no need for anything. It’s easy to pay attention to the needs of others because that sensation of faith kind of nullifies any feeling of lack we would be feeling if we were not studying.

      And my understanding was that the Left line is a relatively tiny portion of the time where we acknowledge our fears and feelings about the specter of the corporeal world, and that in doing this we acknowledge that these are our own qualities, our own coarseness, our own helplessness to keep these issues from spilling out onto the rest of the collective soul.

      I thought the point of the Left line was this discernment… a criticism of the current state of the self in order to obtain the desire to rise, and that would then trigger the upper to give us faith, and the faith carries us back to the Right.

      My objective was to spend only a tiny time in the Left, and most time in the Right, but to basically be content to dwell in either one while I am in it, because it’s doing its work.

      That has been my experience of it. But between these three sources from this week… especially the Self Criticism episode of Kabbalah Explained Simply, I am not sure that I am approaching the Left with the correct attitude. If it really is ok to try to avoid and ignore self criticism and negative discernments about corporeal reality… I would love to give myself permission to do that. But it doesn’t seem right.

      Can you explain what your intention is when you are in either state?

      I am also wondering, in the Graduate environment, if I will have access to groups and events on weekdays. It’s rare for me to have an opportunity to be alone on the weekend. And will I be able to ask questions about The Zohar in there? Thanks!

      • #432453

        Hi Logynn,

        We don’t need any self-criticism because I didn’t do anything – the Creator did it. Anything deeper than that is already a Klipa (shell) in disguise. About the future though, I have to act as if there is no Creator. After I act, the Creator did it. However counterintuitive it seems, this is the only way to see the reality of There Is None Else Besides Him.

        • #432467
          Logynn
          Participant

          Ok, so, functionally… try your best to be good and do good, but don’t look back if you make a mistake?

        • #432476

          Yes, and doing good is mainly in the intention, since all actions are essentially egoistic. It’s better to be clear that I’m doing egoistic actions across the board than thinking sometimes I’m good and sometimes not.

    • #374466
      Johan
      Participant

      I think I didn’t catch what you mean.

      Would you explain a little bit better or in clearer lines, in a way that I can understand?

       

      • #374595

        Each person has their desire, a shattered part of the whole. Some things about it they can correct actively. Some aspects they simply have to live with for the time being. For example, if something is part of my hardware, like how my brain/body is structured. The reason I got what I got will be revealed in the End of Correction. All we can say is that these things are necessary for the correction of the whole.

    • #374145
      Johan
      Participant

      Hi, nice to meet you.I know that egoism is our sickness. how does kabbalah express the meaning of mental diseases such as both obsessive-compulsive desorder and schizophrenia?

      • #374321

        It’s a result of the collective Shattering that we’re all products of, but this aspect of the Shattering gets emphasized in this way in the person. He carries this burden for the rest of humanity. Each person has something of his own, which he carries as a result of the Shattering, until we reach the correction of our common soul.

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