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    Explore inquiries concerning the week 5 lesson and materials, obtaining wisdom from a seasoned Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #504583
      Farzin
      Participant

      Hi

      I have a question. I am currently reading the book “Attaining the Worlds Beyond”. I reached a section, and again, the same catch-22 concept was brought up:

      P 39 reads:

      “Therefore, by striving to emulate the Creator in our thoughts, desires, and efforts, we are, in fact, building the structure of our own eternity. However, dedicating yourself to the Creator is only possible when we realise the Creator’s greatness.”

      I have had no first-hand experience  (attainment) of the Creator’s greatness up to this point. I can attribute all the greatness to him subjectively because I choose to, but there is no objectivity in the process.  All I have are the things said here and there, most of which do not pass the critical faculty check.  So, I have to think of or believe in a Creator who is said to be great, and closeness to it is the path to spirituality and salvation. I have realisations, or, better said, “justifications in the Creator’s favour” for what are often called unfortunate life events, and that those led me here, where I convince myself is the best to be because I have no idea of other places I could have ended up in.

      My question is, while I don’t have a strong grasp of the Creator just yet, how am I supposed to direct every action towards him, want to be close to him or emulate him? If the Creator is nature, my experience with nature is a brutal dog-eat-dog cycle of birth and death.

      How does this confusing catch-22 situation break? I keep studying every day and watch the recorded graduate videos, but there is always some sort of brutal uncertainty and doubt. Could you please shed light on the matter?

      • #504597

        The Creator arranged this to be a catch-22. I’m given dissatisfaction with this world, drawn to the wisdom of Kabbalah, and told that my dissatisfaction is because I was never meant to simply live and enjoy my life here like the animals, but to become like the Creator. I’m then told “…but the Creator is completely concealed and cannot be imagined…and by the way, you need to become like the Creator…then you will enjoy the sublime good that He planned for you in the Thought of Creation.”

        It has to be this way, that on the one hand, we know what the goal is – become like the Creator – and on the other, the Creator is concealed. Were He revealed, and not even revealed but only revealed as if “from behind”, as something that was possible “around the corner” no one on Earth would think about anything else – not capturing land, making a trillion dollars, winning an election or a World Cup – only reaching the Creator. Because that swallows every other pleasure – because He is the essence behind the clothings over all the other pleasures, that one is unknowingly seeking. So, you understand that running after Him this way does not lead to bestowal but to hypertrophic receiving in order to receive, which is the opposite of the goal of becoming like the Creator, and we’d never ever reach it.

        So, He’s concealed. What’s it mean that He’s concealed. He is actually right before me, however I have no vessels, like you wouldn’t hear the music at a concert you’re at if you had no ears, say, because you’re a snake who “hears” through vibrations. In fact, that concert, instead of pleasurable, will seem to you as a hellish cacophony of vibrations. This is how we’re perceiving the Garden of Eden we’re in now, with our lack of vessels of spiritual perception. This is how heaven appears when you have only our 5 senses from birth. If we add spiritual vessels, we perceive the total recipe of reality, which changes everything – how we see what was, what is, and what will be.

        How do we add spiritual vessels? I have to connect with others who have the same kind of awakening that brought me precisely to the wisdom of Kabbalah, a signal that they have the missing parts of my spiritual vessel. What we study here is how to do that, because this vessel was broken precisely in a way that I won’t be able to connect to them without somewhat doing so in a way that already resembles the Creator. I don’t know how to do it but I learn what the parameters of this connection are, and I of course misinterpret them or even can’t quite hear them. But if I play toward that state, there is an Upper Force of development that helps. It’s the same source of all development in our world, and by me playing in states that are destined for me anyway, I awaken those states sooner than they would have come anyway (but in much less pleasant ways). Gradually, I both connect the parts of my vessel, thus reveal the Creator, and in doing so, become similar to Him.

    • #476873
      Ben
      Participant

      I don’t have any questions, but I am totally stoked about becoming part of a group of 10 and beginning the real work!

      How long before we’ll be assigned to a group of 10?

      How will we be notified?

    • #471812
      Peshka
      Participant

      Sometimes I am doing some activities in my everyday life. And this is happening just lately… And that way I do my thoughts are connecting it with the  Creator, in way that I see how my actions come from above. Or is just a knowledge that my actions come from above. Is it how we start feel connected ourselves on the body level and spiritual level?

      For example, I have a very busy day, running from one thing to another and go to work after all. All of a sudden I am at the back yard a front of our raspberry bush which is full of ripe fruits and need to be picked up. I have to make a decision some of my next activities to get off from my list, so I can pick the raspberries. And going along on the row I am starting to catch my thought , as If I replace the raspberries with the word” knowledge “ it will show me another perspective of my activity …

      raspberries are covered with snow at the winter, spring comes, they grow slowly , you need to water them and etc. And if I don’t take the decision right now to pick them up and share them with some friends, it will be not fare to the whole process of taking care of them. The knowledge is a seed in the right environment, that it needs a long time to grow, to be taken many actions, spend time … and at the end you need to share it with your friends as the raspberries.
      And  also I pick up all ripe fruits from one section, and then I move on to the next. But as I look back is always some fruits I did not see.
      By me changing the perspective, or raspberries =knowledge; friends are the short cut towards my knowledge it feels great:)

      It feels very inspiring , that the Creator shows you your connection  to other friends on the pat  of awakening through your everyday journey ❤️

       

      • #471834

        The main thing is that you’re thinking of the friends, the Creator, and the spiritual goal; however that happens is good. It’s not already a state of knowledge of the Creator’s actions, but it’s in the right direction. Knowledge of the Creator’s actions is something much clearer and unmistakable.

    • #450364
      Marie
      Participant

      I understand that the group is a system, how is it we can be connected to the system at any place even while at work. How does that work?

      • #450365

        That’s in the thought, and in the heart. Through many actions and efforts in the right direction, it’s possible. In the graduate program we learn all the ways of connection. Connection is something fairly complex, comprised of a combination of inner attitudes toward the group, which have to hold together at once for it to be called connection. They’re summarized also in the first, say, 20 articles of Rabash.

    • #449845
      ilse
      Participant

      I can completely understand why a spiritual environment is needed. But most of the time, we are in our daily environment(s). My question is: how can i transition the work that i do in the spiritual environment, into my daily environment? There also i would like to work with the right and the left line, in order to come to middle line.

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      • #449855

        You have to first build the device, and then go out with it. You can’t build some new invention in the street, and it won’t be better if everyone will add their two cents on the matter; you have to build in a lab. That’s what the grad program is. And you will always need to start from this lab before you’ll know how correctly to relate to the world outside it. So, first you have to really build it strongly and correctly.

        For now, what you have in daily life is to behave as if you don’t study Kabbalah, while on the inside you live in the discernment that there is None Else Besides Him, the Creator that controls you and everyone, and that He only does good to you and everyone. Try to stay in those 3 inner and outer modes so that there is a split between what you’re doing on the outside and inside.

        • #449864
          ilse
          Participant

          Thank you Gianni, that is very clear 🙂

    • #434803
      Helen
      Participant

      We are already in many environments, our families, our friends, our colleagues, our neighbors, and random people we meet. since none else besides him, I would think all those existing environments exist for good reasons? I get it to have a new environment where you can meet people with the same spiritual goal, but how do I or how do Kabu decide the make-up of my 10?  what’s our definition of the right environment for this case? thanks as always and can’t wait to join the group.

      • #434810

        If we’re talking about real spiritual work, one needs an environment of those presently awakened toward the goal of life with a drive so sharp that its tributaries led to authentic Kabbalah. Among these friends, it’s not so important which ten, but it’s good it’s some fixed ten so that against that lenticular spiritual background I can work and accurately measure my growth.

        • #434845
          Helen
          Participant

          got it. now I have finished all classes and it looks like I need to pay another annual fee on top of the annual membership I already have in order to continue the journey… sorry my skeptical mind starts to work again, if there will be so many layers of paid membership, why not spilling it all out upfront? don’t want to scare people away? I get it, but at this point it really leaves a bad taste. not about the payment itself, but somehow it feels deceiving…  I actually emailed the support team before I started this course, they replied and said I do not need to pay another fee, I will be assigned with a group. yesterday I was so excited that I finally finished it, then I was sent to a membership payment page….

        • #434852

          I’m not affiliated with money/memberships, but it’s interesting to know what memberships were like with Kabbalists throughout history. Almost as soon as you entered the study hall, you were approached – and asked to place on the table a jaw-dropping amount of money! I understand this is, as usual, opposite of how we think spiritual things should work. Even if after you left the lesson, the Kabbalist would throw your money out onto the street (which they sometimes did), the teacher had to charge, proportional to the student’s income, a sum commensurate with the value of a wisdom by which one can burst out of the dark bitter radish of this world to the wide wonder of the spiritual world – in a way that the Will to Receive feels it’s paying. Otherwise, the Will to Receive doesn’t allow me to advance spiritually, and I’ll never reach the spiritual world. Whereas to the extent the person pays, the Will to Receive itself demands one’s spiritual advancement rather than digging its heals in against it, even though spirituality is opposite its nature.  These are the conditions from Above. It’s not up to the teacher.

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