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    • #127991
      Danielle Vergonet
      Participant

      My question. Lately we have the corona on this world and it’s all about freedom. People feel not free anymore, while I perceive it was always the case but what’s inside will be projected on a bigger screen in this time so that we get confronted with what is inside us and we can correct that. And that while being busy with this we see we can only go inside and be connected to really feel free. I am not sure, at the beginning of this course this comes to mind. Am i a bit in the right direction?

      • #128005

        Yes. Everyone will realize that we don’t need to worry about anything except what are we living for? So, that we will worry only about this, nature will now create circumstances in which there will be nothing else to live for. There won’t be all kinds of goods, nor vacations, nor hope of fame. We’ll see billionaires’ fortunes simply deleted. People will be left penniless. Otherwise we’re willing to be satisfied with little, meaning we don’t need the Upper World, the Creator, the meaning of life. This is how our nature is. But if it has nothing from which to derive pleasure, the ears open. Of course it’s preferable that people hear an advance that there is a method of running towards connection instead of the suffering pushing them to connection. Because all goodness transpires from the correct connection – no matter what you can imagine, it’s from the correct connection. And all bad that you can imagine happening, that’s from the broken connection. The quality of the connection between people is the source of everything.

    • #127021

      No questions at this this time, the questions and answer from above are at present  time giving  me satisfaction, thank you to the ones asking them and off course thank you for the answers

      Jean

    • #126335
      Seraphim
      Participant

      I’m still trying to wrap my head around this whole promise that all of my pleasures will be fulfilled.

      I mean, I can think of a whole host of pleasures that are the deepest longings of my heart, which I just know for a lapidary fact will never, ever be fulfilled in a million years. For example, I can name at least seven women with whom it would be ultimately fulfilling for me to be partnered with. I could name several dozen countries whose music, religions, culture, food, and languages I deeply desire to imbibe and internalize. I could list the titles of thousands of books that it would give me immense, fulfilling pleasure to read, but which I never will because there is just no time to do so.

      So why do you hold out this slick message of the late night advertiser or used car salesman, that the Creator want to fulfill of these desires when we all know that this is just not going to happen?

      • #126345

        No, those pleasures the Creator isn’t interested in. He didn’t create this world for you to enjoy. It’s only to develop you. Like how a good parent only provides the child experiences with an eye to his development. Also, the period of babyhood for humanity is ending, and so there are no more states on the horizon that we would’ve called “good”. That “good” which you like a small child call good, like when a child says he’d eat cake and watch tv all day, the Creator hates. The Creator is only interested in His definition of good, that each moment we’ll move closer to bestowal, and that means, first, closer to the connection with others that leads to connection with the Creator. It’s actually a restriction on the desire for any self-benefit one can imagine. Later, later, and so much later that it’s useless to bother with it right now, there is the opening of the desire (and those are much deeper than any one can now even fantasize about) and the desires are all used in order to bestow but that’s as useless to think about now as talking about one’s next next next incarnation. One has first very serious devoted work in connection with others according to the advice of Kabbalists.

        • #126355
          Seraphim
          Participant

          Okay, now that’s some straight talk. Thank you for that.

          So, my advice to KabU teachers is to stop misleading people in your introductory talks by saying things like “the Creator created a creature to receive endless pleasure.” When people hear that, their first thought, “Oh, okay that means the Creator wants me to get everything I want.”

          What you really should be telling introductory students from the get-go of a basic course in Kabbalah is, “What you think is ‘pleasure’ is not really pleasure. You are delusional. The Creator wants to give you true pleasures that you cannot even imagine right now in your low estate, in your deluded way of receiving.”

          In my humble opinion, I just think you guys should say it like it is. Don’t beat around the bush by luring people in thinking that Kabbalah is like all the other trashy schools teaching the so-called “Law of Attraction.” Tell the truth from the start like a splash of cold water in the face, and then people will realize what they’re getting into.

    • #63111
      george
      Participant

      No questions as of yet

    • #62497
      Lu Lu
      Participant

      Thank you for being available.  I can already see a new reality and share it with the ones I love. My question is, how do I encourage my family to be open-minded to learn Kaballah?

      • #62500

        You can’t because Kabbalah doesn’t run in the family nor does it crossover the way other common interests do. The Point in the Heart emerges by the Upper Force, one doesn’t know why, and as long as it’s awakened, it’s the sensor with which one appreciates Kabbalah. This point fell from the Upper World Kabbalah writes about, and this Point longs to return to its root. But if this Point is not already awakened in the person causing them to search for Kabbalah, you can’t interest them in it more than in a passing, superficial way.

        • #128301
          Bob
          Participant

          You say we can’t we can’t encourage our families. I guess that was good for me to hear. It is my opinion that some very select portions of what I am learning can be shared with people who have become disheartened with their current paths and in the increasing decline of our society.

          To learn that the ENTIRE PURPOSE of the creation is for US to receive ALL that the Creator had for us and that EVERY atom and event in the physical universe is EXQUISITELY FASHION to lead us to that end, is a game changer.

          EVERY DAY I encounter people who are desperate for BETTER answers, whose hopelessness breaks my heart. After 20 years of studying Judaism and with 8 of them dabbling in Kabbalah and 2 years of material like this, I feel like I am nearing a point when I will be able to provide a short, but comprehensive PEEK into this UNIMAGINABLE world that TRULY IS…the Blueprint of Creation for the increasing number of desperate people I run into.

          You are right, I must not expect to do anything more than introduce them to something which may or may not spark any desire to further explore.
          BUT…at the same time, didn’t the work of Baal HaSulam mark a new chapter in circulation of Kabbalah, that his work was to distribute it much more broadly?

          If we believe that we have reached a time when Kabbalah will flow to people like never before, then I am willing (and only very recently ready) to provide bite size samples to those willing to listen for an hour or two with the expectation that we WILL see more and more people willing to receive it.

          BUT your words of caution are TRUE…we (I) can’t “sell” this material. I cannot pursue people, or heaven forbid, try to convince them. I can only OFFER selected bits and pieces to those whose path and timing seem appropriate AND STOP THERE. That is our work; to learn to work WITH “nature”, not try to BE nature. It is nature that KNOWS who is ready, not me.

          I am a retired firefighter. I have rescued a lot of people with or without their permission. This is different. Here, people have to leave their burning building of their own volition; my job is just to make sure they know they CAN leave, if they want and if they don’t, well that is between them and nature, right?

        • #128303

          There are a few reasons I give the above advise. The most important is for the person who is here to develop himself. If he really does that, it will develop those around him more than all the words. They will feel his spiritual advancement, even though they won’t have words for it. Whereas if he disseminates this wisdom to those not in his near environment, for example by sharing a link of ours out on the web, if people don’t want it, they have no personal qualms with him; but if he accidentally awakens resistance in those in his inner circles, now he has stoked certain underground resistances in the environment he dwells in. For now we don’t feel how these different currents influence us. That’s why each can do what he wishes, but I recommend only to disseminate in a hands-off way, in the vein of “here’s a book you might like” (one of our beginner books). If you get a good review after a few days, you’ll have your answer, and if they don’t say anything or say something negative, you’ll also have your answer, but this way it doesn’t cause the person to think you’re on some strange tangent.

    • #61625
      ~marz
      Participant

      I am sorry to take up so much space with my questions but I do have another that I have not had an opportunity to ask yet. I have heard some mention of a 6000 year cycle and understand that we are within about 250 years of the completion of that cycle. I would like to know more about what we will need to accomplish, as a humanity, in order to achieve the best possible outcome during this period. I have learned a little bit about the path of light and it’s expedition over the path of pain, but I have not learned any specific milestones or thresholds that we can recognize as ample progress. I am truly not asking to predict the future I am just asking if we have any landmarks to help us measure where we are currently in the process.

      if you have any resources that explain this further I would be grateful.

      • #62503

        I think you may enjoy Introduction to the Study of the Ten Sefirot by Baal HaSulam. It explains the whole process we go through. Nothing I’ll say will compare to learning from Baal HaSulam but I can say that the milestones, if you will, are straightforward: try to connect according to the advice of Kabbalists, reach “don’t do to another what you hate,” and later “love the other and you love yourself, that is, with all your heart, soul and might, and when you do your love of the Creator too will be complete.” But humanity hasn’t even begun.

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