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AMIParticipantYes that makes perfect sense and is what I was hoping to hear – going through this entire descent/shattering/ascent just to go back to the starting point before the thought of creation sounds pointless. So we are not “undoing” creation by correction, we are literally fulfilling the its purpose by living in a world transformed by corrected intention.
Essentially the Creator made a shattered world to give us the chance to be like Him, so yes I totally see how correction is just the beginning of the adventure.
AMIParticipantI just finished the intro to Pticha course and have a question about what Kabbalah says about the end point of this entire process of correction: what happens to the vessel once it goes all the way back up from the point that it started from? Does creation go back to the state that was before the thought of creation, undoing Tzimtzum and then “disappearing” back into the Creator? Or are these 5 worlds now permanent features of reality and Malchut will always continue to exist, just transformed by correction?
AMIParticipantThen what’s the point of the Masach and inverting our intention? I understand that correction comes from the Creator alone, but you’re saying the only thing we can do is practice in a group and allow the Light to do the work?
AMIParticipantOK this is where the language starts getting tricky: “aim toward bestowal to others without any reception to self” sounds like a total nullification of receiving at all and only bestowing to others. But since our very nature is the will to receive, we have to use that quality with the corrected intention of bestowal so that it becomes receiving in order to bestow.
This is why I asked whether, at least in the first stages, “receiving not only for myself” is already counted as bestowal – where the correct form of receiving is not nullification of reception, but rather the Creator being included in the reception, so that it is no longer for my sake alone.
AMIParticipantBeautiful, thank you for that explanation.
My last lingering question is how exactly the core free intention looks like: are we receiving to bestow to others INSTEAD of ourselves, or are we INCLUDING others in our will to receive, thereby transforming it to bestowal?
The former just sounds like egoic altruism to me and is basically impossible (“I receive not for me, but for you.”), where as the latter sounds much more realistic and honest (“I am receiving not ONLY for my own sake, but for yours as well”).
The first sounds like a nullification of desire, the second sounds like it leverages it.
AMIParticipantYes, this is great. Now since there really is none else besides Him, and we are one collective soul/creation, isn’t our relationship with the group essentially another form of receiving for “self”, but at a higher level than simply our own individual ego desires? I know that practically we experience each other as separate and that’s where our work is, but I like seeing where all this leads.
So ultimately, is the relationship with the group just practice and training for our relationship with the Creator? That even if some one found themselves in a situation without a ten/group, they can still focus on the real end goal?
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