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Yes, so I once asked, one of the instructors, re: “ could it be that the Kabbalists from the past ate pork?” (I never believed that they condoned it) he said re: he cannot say for sure if they did or not, but he did tell me that when one attains the root of the mitzvah, one >naturally< wants to keep the branch. Granted, that may be a high spiritual state.
So, since the law of DO NOT LAY WITH ANOTHER MAN” is not talking biologically…let me take a guess, it means something like…do not fuse/mix the force of Bestowal with Giving to yourself”? Male forces ect. Let’s say i do NOT DO that, so im following the right path spiritually…You are saying that the root can still manifest into this world (branch) opposite of its spiritual meaning, and not contradict the root simply because it is not talking about our bodies? Someone can be following the spiritual meaning of it (not mixing bestowal with self) and still be a homosexual ? Whats the point of it cascading ? And it has absolutely nothing to do with the root then…?
We say that the jews in israel now are the real jews biologically from the bible but they are FAR from the Creator, how does this compare? Is it BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE ROOT??
I still don’t get it… society says homosexuality is permissible, but the Torah says it’s not permissible. Make it make sense. 🙏🏻🤲🏻
1: Are you saying that Adultery, homosexuality, Pedophilia are the Laws of this world’s society (which are the Creators)?
2: So, can he inadvertently block others from trying to go up the stairs to the second floor? WWGD (What Would Gianni Do?)
So you agree those would be against nature…okay, so what if he’s a pedophile, i just patiently wait for the light to work? Or i change my environment …what would you do?
How can a someone who studies kabbalah go against nature? and continue to do so? does the upper light work on him slowly? to change him? to match the branch with the root? If he does not plan to change, for example….cheating on his wife… (going against nature) or laying with another man (going against nature) as the Torah forbids both, we can say they are talking about forces but they go hand in hand. If he continues, does that mean he is not a Kabbalist after all? Or, how can the friends help? It’s like the evil inclination keeps them in their desires, holds them there, i guess that can be said for all people … including me, the ego can lock people in.🤷 Or maybe he is not aware that he is going against nature after all…Maybe more like …he justifies “not changing” thinking that he is not going against nature, but really is. I know, love covers all crimes but where do we draw the line? We embrace it?? I Can’t see that. We are all sinners but do we continue in it, is a different story.
Hi
Book suggestion for a “friend”?
to my surprise he is willing to read a book,….here is what he said re:… “I don’t need an elevated level of thinking or knowledge, I need how the entirety of the whole can justify the jews evil decisions. Indeed. I don’t do these things out of malicious intent or pleasure. (Debating me) I just demand the world that was promised to me by man or God, make sense. I don’t need all the answers, just the ones to the pertinent problems like childhood disease, war, famine, slavery based on ideals and not battle, etc”. End quote******
although he may have been surprised when i said The Torah is not about this world, he still challenged that .
I’m thinking the Ravs book “chaos causes order” or, since he hates the government of Israel, and thinks judaism is evil with the Talmud ect. maybe that book Rav wrote about Anti Semitism or maybe someone has a better suggestion.?
He goes by logic. But also believes in divine forces. I understand that logic will not gain spirituality, rather one needs a point in the heart, maybe some of the Rav’s words can plant a seed.
thanks in advance
