Forum Replies Created
- Replies
So you agree those would be against nature…okay, so what if he’s a pedophile, i just patiently wait for the light to work? Or i change my environment …what would you do?
How can a someone who studies kabbalah go against nature? and continue to do so? does the upper light work on him slowly? to change him? to match the branch with the root? If he does not plan to change, for example….cheating on his wife… (going against nature) or laying with another man (going against nature) as the Torah forbids both, we can say they are talking about forces but they go hand in hand. If he continues, does that mean he is not a Kabbalist after all? Or, how can the friends help? It’s like the evil inclination keeps them in their desires, holds them there, i guess that can be said for all people … including me, the ego can lock people in.🤷 Or maybe he is not aware that he is going against nature after all…Maybe more like …he justifies “not changing” thinking that he is not going against nature, but really is. I know, love covers all crimes but where do we draw the line? We embrace it?? I Can’t see that. We are all sinners but do we continue in it, is a different story.
Hi
Book suggestion for a “friend”?
to my surprise he is willing to read a book,….here is what he said re:… “I don’t need an elevated level of thinking or knowledge, I need how the entirety of the whole can justify the jews evil decisions. Indeed. I don’t do these things out of malicious intent or pleasure. (Debating me) I just demand the world that was promised to me by man or God, make sense. I don’t need all the answers, just the ones to the pertinent problems like childhood disease, war, famine, slavery based on ideals and not battle, etc”. End quote******
although he may have been surprised when i said The Torah is not about this world, he still challenged that .
I’m thinking the Ravs book “chaos causes order” or, since he hates the government of Israel, and thinks judaism is evil with the Talmud ect. maybe that book Rav wrote about Anti Semitism or maybe someone has a better suggestion.?
He goes by logic. But also believes in divine forces. I understand that logic will not gain spirituality, rather one needs a point in the heart, maybe some of the Rav’s words can plant a seed.
thanks in advance
I like this baby talk, so, are you saying that desire to get rid of pleasure is kind of like someone who became a vegetarian restricting the pleasure of meat, its rejecting but still getting a more genuine pleasure? or like a child’s realizes his toy Airplane is not a real fighter jet? (A rejection) So this is the realization of receiving 20%? (More genuine) Is this also, where Bina (the baby) becomes hofetz hesed? Maybe im mixing things up.
So Rav say’s there are no miracles in this world, only the upper world. another place he says, you have to look at it two ways. Either everything that happens in this world is a miracle, or there is no miracles, but only in the upper world
and then we have Hanukah which happened in this world, and we talk about miracles, we look forward to miracles, so did the oil last eight days literally in this world? or is it only speaking of the upper world? how do I reconcile the Hanukah miracle with these two perspectives that either everything is a miracle or nothing is a miracle?.
