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I told a rabbi in a debate “the attainment comes first; it is followed by the actions that stem from it.”
His response….But the Torah reverses this sequence explicitly and deliberately.
At Sinai, Israel says:
“We will do, and we will hear.”
– Exodus 24:7
Action precedes full understanding. This isn’t a deficiency to be corrected later. The Talmud calls this statement Israel’s greatest moment of spiritual clarity.
Doing before fully comprehending is not the lower stage – it is the covenantal structure.
The Sefer HaChinuch states that character follows action —
the heart is drawn after deeds.
Attainment grows through physical performance, not as a prerequisite to it.
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Aren’t there examples of the patriarchs even going back to adam that they attained spirituality before the Torah was given? Before the temples was built? What does “we will do and we will listen” really mean regarding action first?
I need to pull myself back into study. Rav says how important it is to be aligned with weekly torah portion. And we are encouraged to watch morning lessons from Israel. But the diaspora is a week behind. What do you do?
“Greater is one who is commanded and performs than one who is not commanded and performs.”
– Kiddushin 31a
“ we will do and we will listen “
what is an Action in kabbalah?
We say the physical mitzvot are just copies of the spiritual. What is the Torah? One of Rav’s articles says its the upper light, so it’s not a book, would the scroll/book be a “copy” ?
Hi, Gianni
The Torah says, and he shall be buried on the same day, and also from the dust you came, and the dust you shall return, judaism has its tradition, but what does this mean in kabbalah?
