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ilse
ParticipantI use the words light and shadow for the good and bad traits of someone, i didn’t found it in a text.
ilse
ParticipantI have a question about merits and faults. I can understand that we have to focus on the merits of the friends, but on the other hand, someone has in him “light and shadow”. Aren’t we having a distorted image if we don’t see the complete picture of the person? And also, i become more and more aware of my own evil inclination, but also of others. Why should i deny a part of the other by not counting in also “faults” (but without judging them) ? I know there is a comparison with when you are in love with someone, you don’t see any fault. But there is also the saying: “love makes blind”. And often we are trapped in something because we don’t see reality as it is but because, like we say in dutch, “we looked through rose colored glasses”, which is the case when we are in love. So i’m a bit confused about the one sided focus on merits.
ilse
ParticipantI think every form of sexuality, whether homo or heterosexuality (or pedophilia etc), is in any case a deviation, and that the most corrected state would mean that sexuality no longer exists. If we look back at the story of Adam and Eve and its metaphorical meaning – the fall from the paradise – it actually means descending to the level of the beast. And that level is reproduction through sex. That’s what animals do. That is already a fallen state, and therefore heterosexuality is just as much part of it. The purest state is when sexuality (all forms included) has been corrected.
ilse
ParticipantHi Gianni, i am not yet in a ten (i hope to receive soon en email with an invitation), so i only can do the work in my daily life. What should i do in daily life to grow? Observing my ego i suppose, and remarking how i can not escape the evil inclination. But maybe also bestow as much as i can (even if this is not real bestowal) ? I think its generally more right to bestow in corporeal life, or does this 2 needs to be in balance (receive and bestow) in this world because i am surrounded by corporeal people who are not in the work? And can i practice the 1000 euro/1 euro with a friend (by coincidence i lent someone some money), can i ask him to give me back 1 euro instead of the whole sum ?
ilse
ParticipantHere are 2 questions after the grad class of this week:
1) there is said that a person only feels shame when he receives spiritual pleasure. But what then with the corporeal shame i feel when a friend gives me a big present ?2) As long as i am not in equivalence of form, i can not receive spiritual pleasure, so the light that i receive when i at least try to bestow, will not give me pleasure but will only reveal deeper and deeper layers of my evil inclination, until my whole ego is gone, and then, only then, will i finally receive the light as (pure) pleasure ?
Is that a correct interpretation ?ilse
ParticipantHi Gianni, you said during the sunday class that there is no pleasure in receiving. Why is that so ? Because it separates us from the Creator (no equivalence of form) ? Or because we feel the pleasure of the Giver and we want that ? But why are we then created as receivers if it gives us no pleasure ? Is it because we should be able to bestow (you can only give what you received) ?
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