Forum Replies Created
- AuthorReplies
LogynnParticipantIs “In Sadness You Will Bear Children” about the temporary necessity of mortality and morbidity, and the sorrow of the lower ones to seemingly create within that apparent paradigm?
And if it is, what is the opening that needs to be made?
LogynnParticipantToday we were workshopping Shamati 43 and this last paragraph was both alluring and inscrutable. Could you say anything about what it’s telling us?
“The answer is that these corporeal things extend from their upper roots, meaning from reward and punishment and from private Providence. The only difference is that in spirituality it appears in one place, meaning in one carrier, but one-by-one, meaning in one person but in two states, and in corporeality it is in one time, but in two carriers, meaning at the same time and in two different people.”
LogynnParticipantthank you. that is highly applicable.
LogynnParticipantIn the YouTube video “Toldot Parsha – Bible Secrets Explained” Semion asks Rav why there’s this repetitive problem in the Torah books that the wives can’t bear children. And Rav basically says that when you’ve completed one degree you can’t really see or understand the next degree yet. So you can’t conceive of a desire for it. So before you can move into it you need to get a correction of your current desire, (it sounds like an inspiration of a new one,) in order to work in the next degree. So, the problem was that the wife (the couple as a unit) was already perfectly corrected and fulfilled in the current degree. And she needed to conceive a completely new desire for the next.
This sounds like a big problem on a collective development scale. It made me wonder if men, generally, are “on hold” for crossing the machsom, until women develop a detailed, mature, genuine desire for the next world. But it can’t be, because otherwise the Kabbalists would have started by teaching women first, right? If the matured desire was a prerequisite to cross the machsom?
How should I be thinking of these two concepts inside myself instead? If before I was praying for the ability for the group to become a conduit/pipeline for the light into our world, should I instead be praying for a clearer more corrected and unique desire for the next world?
LogynnParticipantI had thought of Ohr Hassidim as somehow from the lower one. Not that it originated there, but that it was a consequence of something in the lower one.
The only way I can describe what I was thinking is with this thing I learned about Lamed the other day. The post said that the word “teach” doesn’t translate perfectly to Hebrew because it implies that just by intending for someone to learn something they learn it. When, in reality the receptivity and readiness of the learner is a big factor. So the Hebrew words surrounding learning as a concept don’t make that implication, I guess
So in my thinking Ohr Hassadim was like this, that it was some kind of side effect of receptivity and readiness of the lower one to accurately sense the presence of Ohr Hochma.
But then I read this in the “Table of Answer for the Meaning of Words” in TES:
5. What is “light of Hochma” (Part 1, Chapter 1, Inner Light, 50)
A light that is extended to the emanated being in the first expansion, which is all the vitality and self of the emanated being.
6. What is “light of Hassadim” (Part 1, Chapter 1, Inner Light, 5)
A light that clothes the light of Hochma, and is extended to the emanated being with the first intensification.
This sounds like a completely separate thing. But I wonder what I read that made me think the first thing, and also there is so much said about how simple and “one” the light itself is.
Is Ohr Hassadim just the understanding/apprehension of what the light of Hochma actually is and what it’s doing?
LogynnParticipantDoes that mean that extend is vertical and expand is horizontal? Or like extend is in a line and expand is for circles?
- AuthorReplies

