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Sorry, I posted this on the wrong forum, but here is another question I had.
Is it possible to turn a corporeal desire into a prayer by denying oneself of that pleasure? Especially since we know these corporeal desires will never be completely filled and we will always want more? Or are we supposed to keep chasing air?
Because I get presented with opportunities and sometimes its like ok yeah that would nice but since I know this is a dream world I really don’t want to waste anymore time on this illusion.
This question stems from 10/2 Afternoon lesson.
Have they thought about having a survey that asks students how invested or how much effort are they putting in or plan on putting into the wisdom of kabbalah? For example, if people were asked how often do they study kabbalah versus how often do they attend other paths, religions, beliefs, then people who are only dedicated to the wisdom of kabbalah won’t be in tens with people that are just one foot in and one foot out.
Or is this part of the process? People that are all in are supposed to be able to connect to anybody that just shows up and all of a sudden they are involved in something that they are later going to walk away because they just wanted to check it out? Or is the hope that through the 10s the halfway in people will become all in, with out coercion? And to expose the evil inclination? (On either side)
And is it also part of the process to connect people with different desires to purposely cause “holes in the boat” ? Because I can care for/ love someone all I want, but if they still want to drill a hole I’m supposed to say eh well, we will try next life time? Or pray the Creator will dry up all the water so the hole they drill has no effect on the goal? And would this be an example of faith above reason?
I just want to understand how are we to reach arvut? I was raised believing in God/Creator so for me, I just think the Creator is the Creator he can do whatever he wants we are literally at his mercy, and faith may be a habit for me than it is to those who are here for science. How do we help them? Just pray for the Creator to change their heart or perception? This is all a part of Awakening the consciousness?
Is it possible to turn a corporeal desire into a prayer by denying oneself of that pleasure? Especially since we know these corporeal desires will never be completely filled and we will always want more? Or are we supposed to keep chasing air?
Because I get presented with opportunities and sometimes its like ok yeah that would nice but since I know this is a dream world I really don’t want to waste anymore time on this illusion.
21. When One Feels Oneself in a State of Ascent
When one feels oneself in a state of ascent, that he is high-spirited, when he feels that he has no desire but only for spirituality, it is then good to delve in the secrets of the Torah in order to attain its internality.
Is the Torah it’s speaking of here the 5 books of the bible? Or the articles and the Bible anything in kabbalah?
The prayer must be a complete prayer, and not have other things mixed in the middle of the prayer.
What are some examples of these other things? Is it speaking of corporeal matters?
Thank you 😊
Wow, I like this. this will be good reminders when the time comes. thank you so much for your insight! That was a good lesson and the friends had awesome questions. Thank you.
The afternoon daily lesson on 9/1 left me with some questions..
1) since for the goal it is more important for me to love the friends than them loving me… is this the reason why disputes and scrutiny’s are important? because it is easy to love someone who loves you, but if I have to overcome our disagreements and still love them, not in fake action, but to truly love them in my heart, then we can actually know true love (not in the corporeal sense) but bestowal/equivalence of form? like we will have different “mind/intellect” but the same heart? like bestowal is opposite of reception but like the middle line is peace/compromise between war and love? the middle line doesn’t become the right and left line, the right and left line still exist, we (the will to receive) will still exist, but will feel pleasure correctly? I hope you understand what I am trying to ask…
2) Is the final correction sort of like (only using this comparison because this is what we work with in corporeality) a computer? because Rav said we are to be many intellects and one feeling. Like a computer has many different websites and many of them are a completely different thought than others but some are similar but may differ in some aspects (these are the minds) but all these websites (minds) can be found in one (computer/internet) form (quality/intention) like this is how we are to work together?
3) is it POSSIBLE to just make up your mind that no matter what dispute you have with a friend, to JUST CHOOSE to not let that get in the way of how you feel towards the friend? I know we cant manipulate feelings, but is it POSSIBLE for the GOAL to mean that much to you that disputes are too small to get in the way??
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer!
