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  • saps,
    Before this we were like a spark inside the sun.  No “me”, no sense of who is the Creator, what is the Creator, how big, how great, what qualities, etc.  We through our work build Him, discover Him.  Of course He is there all along, but by our efforts we discover him in our vessels.
    Seth@KabU

    saps,
    What is the purpose of creation?
    To create a creature and fill it with endless delight.
    In order for the purpose of creation to be fulfilled the creature must receive endless fulfillment.
    So what’s the problem?
    In order for us to feel pleasure, we need to  feel empty first.  The pleasure specifically fills the empty place.
    So now we have a creature called Malchut of Ein Sof that is completely empty and when the pleasure enters it extinguishes the desire.  You’re hungry, you eat, you’re not hungry anymore…in other words you can’t be filled anymore, so what do you do, you drink, ok, now what, you go watch a movie, ok now what? You get the point, this is a fruitless endeavor.
    So we discussed the purpose of creation.
    Now we need to discuss the correction of creation.  Malchut of Ein Sof goes through many processes and we will study them together whereby she receives, but only in order to bestow to the Creator.  So for her, everything becomes spiritual pleasure.  She can eat…she feels the Creator there.  She can give something to another…she feels the Creator there.  It doesn’t matter anymore if she is up or down or giving or taking, she has new, spiritual vessels and in those vessels she is relating to the Creator.  And in her material vessels, her hands, her stomach, etc, they remain in this world as usual.
    Seth@KabU

    Craig,
    Of course.
    Good time to make a note, it’s not a great idea to hear one line, one slogan and base my life on that.
    Why not?  For example, shouldn’t I say that “there is none else besides Him!”?
    Yes, you should, but who will get up in the morning and work to cover the mortgage and put food on the table?
    So there is none else besides Him, and He made a world where we are required to work.
    The point is that we are becoming master craftsman of the soul.  Nuance.  Many efforts over time.
    So to your earlier question, I learn, I want to learn, I want to devour all of the kabbalistic texts, I want to understand everything….and I also need to come back remembering that all of that learning and understanding helps me build my inner vessels, but I can memorize every page of the Zohar and not attain anything and attainment is our goal.
    The text says that the Torah will come forth from Zion (Tzion).  Tzion from the word for exits.  Meaning the light comes in and leaves and when it leaves it leaves a yearning for the next degree, then the light comes in and exits and leaves a yearning for the next higher degree.
    This is how we advance, also with the left and the right and also with the mind and the heart.
    Seth@KabU

     

     

    Ben,
    There are many degrees along the way.  They are all written about in the sources.  You are describing one of the steps.
    Everything is according to the desire in a person’s heart.
    Seth@KabU

    Leah,
    Our teacher, Rav Laitman explained it one time like this:

    The first man was created with only bestowing Kelim, Galgalta veEynaim (GE). He did not have desires to receive, the AHP, for he still needed to acquire them. And he did not simply need desires to receive, but desires that are ready for correction, meaning desires that include sparks of bestowal.

    There is no need to correct the Galgata veEynaim since this is not a person; it is an angel in the Garden of Eden. What was needed was a person with a broken soul, with all the preparations for correction, and this is why the breaking occurred.

    However, breaking alone was not enough since a person does not feel that he is broken – he was born this way! Being broken, he has no contact with the Light relative to which he could measure himself and realize his state. Now he needs to gradually accumulate the definitions inside himself in order to understand that he is broken. And he does this due to two components: his desire to enjoy and the spark of bestowal. They both need to be cultivated.

    He engages in this until by checking one against another, he reaches a state of disappointment. Then he can begin the correction in order to become human.

    Seth@KabU

    Craig,
    It means that now that I understand some things, or understand a lot of things, that now I have some control over reality, now “I” can do something.
    Our goal is to come to feel, to attain that the Creator governs all of reality, to literally feel the governing force that unifies all of reality.
    Of course we learn things and it helps us in life and there is no problem in that.  What we are learning here is that what is our goal really?  It is to attain Godliness.  That means to attain the tremendous, unified field of love that envelopes and operates all of reality.  When we attain that, while we still feel that we have to dress, eat, work, live, we also feel the operation of the Upper Force in all of reality and not that I am somehow some special creature separate from the rest of reality that self governs.  As if a child playing in the playground feels he is independant but Mom and Dad are standing nearby watching over his every move.
    Seth@KabU

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