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    Gil
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    • #308129
      Mary
      Participant

      How do we differentiate between a desire that comes from above, a passionate fire inside, and an egoistic desire? So I understand the key word is intention, but what if your desire is felt or seen by others harmful to them, even if you know inside that is not your intention. Do you suppress the desire to please people, give them some security? How long can you live like that?

      • #308216

        Hey Mary,

        Kabbalah explains that each and every thought and desire comes from the upper force.

        Intention is how we use the desire to receive. How we have it ruled by another force instead of the intention to receive pleasure for myself – we discover the general force of creation which is to do good. We don’t know what it means to do good yet. Any good we are thinking of doing is only “good” to our ego, ourselves. That’s fine though for students of Kabbalah to hear, they can somehow begin to digest what that actually means.

        Trying to begin this inner work in your attitude towards others in the “outside world” isn’t where the focus should be. In fact, the focus will only be with those who have the same aspiration as you – in the meantime. I said “outside world” because those joining the path, really do start feeling a difference between the reality you have within and the reality that you live on the outside. As you start to change, your world starts to change. The others there also living in that world have no idea about the world you’re starting to see which is different than the one they see. They won’t ever see it unless they discover it for themselves and that has nothing to do with how much you can communicate that or not.

        As far as your intentions to not be harmful or what the other person feels, all these should be much more simplified and down to earth. Kabbalah doesn’t need to enter into that realm and a person can start getting really confused if that’s something they end up doing. Trying to connect all things together as a simplified world I built for myself where I understand everything and am content, this is natural. We should already start paying attention to the tendencies of the ego and how it draws us to such positions. We always want to be in control and in a position where I can ensure I’ll be comfortable. The ego is “allowing” you this study of Kabbalah because it sees benefit there for itself, of course. We’re not worried about that, the light will do its work. Everyone tends to do this, right, it’s not just you. Hopefully, others are reading this and identifying. They just all know not to “fight” the ego, but always simply increase the importance of bestowal.

        Going back to your situation. Just do what you would normally do, try to see the Creator’s hand in guiding you the way He does, bringing you to feel certain things and encounter pleasant or unpleasant situations. He wants your attention and doesn’t want you to try and “solve” the disturbances He’s throwing at you. Kabbalah teaches us how to “respond” and we are all still babies flailing our ams and legs over any stimulation. We will become more experienced and therefore more understanding of the One taking care of us, holding us, confusing us, and growing us all with only one intention – “to do Good to His created beings.”

        That’s kind of not an answer to your question but is at the same time. We can expand it if you need.

        Best of luck,

        Chris

        • #308243
          Mary
          Participant

          Hi Chris,

          Reading your reply made me see where my problem is. I’m trying to mix and fit the spiritual world with the physical world too much. Wanting to understand everything and give it meaning that makes sense here in the lower world.

          Another thing that caught my attention: no having to “solve” all the disturbances coming my way. Can you expand on this a little? I looked at it as – little or big tests that we need to solve, “prove” that we want to please the Creator (and in our ego, prove we are worthy). Are you saying the “how” we respond to this test, the intention behind it is enough? and this intention will set things exactly where they have to be spiritually and consequently things will settle in the right place in the physical world too.

        • #308492

          Yeah of course. Yeah so you said it, the “intention” is what counts. This of course is something that isn’t in our hands but it’s like a baby making movements. It’s not thinking it can or can’t make those movements, it’s just “doing”. This is what’s so hard for us to face as beginner students. We are used to acting in this world, operating a certain way and that’s what we know. When we come to Kabbalah, we don’t realize it immediately, but we kind of “un-learn” our ways and force new habits. It’s also not really un-learning since you are more like, overwriting the former habits with newer ones.

          The “prove” in the example is just the efforts a person makes – how they prepare themselves for obstacles and how strong did they tie themselves to the good environment which supplies them with a new inner strength a person slowly reveals can only be re-fueled by society. When the “obstacle” comes, it’s not what a person is able to do at that moment. It’s similar to a war where the war is virtually the outcome of the previous strategy. What weapons you produced and vehicles or soldiers you amassed during the preparation, that’s what you will have to fight the war.

          Another tip would be how you look at “this world” and how you define it. Try defining it only as “in order to receive”. Don’t mix this corporeal matter with spiritual events or concepts. You’ll gradually see where the connection is and how it manifests to you. You’ll see where it has its necessity in the correction process for a person and you’ll be able to relate to it more and more correctly as you progress.

          These are all things a person has to arrange themselves, and they will – but the path doesn’t allow for skipping steps. It doesn’t matter how much a person seems to “know” about the spiritual path. If it hasn’t been experienced in the flesh, measurable attainments and sensations, there’s nothing to guess about and it will only lead you astray further until you realize you’re far gone. It’s worthwhile to adhere to Kabbalistic texts so as not to stray too far each time. Read as often as you can and you’ll certainly see there is a benefit there.

          Best of luck.

          Chris

        • #308510
          Mary
          Participant

          Yes absolutely, I feel how it lights up the path, gently pushing me back on track when I read the kabbalistic texts, or watch the videos in the courses.
          Thanks for your replies.

          Mary

    • #307949
      mrc s
      Participant

      Should we regard ourselves as righteous or sinners, or to regard ourselves as low or high

      • #307999

        Neither. Until you reach a certain degree of equivalence of form with the Creator, the only movement “up” is by “moving” – right and then left.

        The only steps ever taken are taken going “forward” – towards the goal of greater adhesion – however, the next state to be revealed and corrected comes to us clothed in a corrupted form. The Creator adds the left and we add to the right. The trend should always be to move the “right”, meaning “adding” in bestowal.

        A person moving closer to the Creator must also be “thrown” from Him as well. This is the meaning of a “righteous” and “sinner”. Man is not in control of his states, just how they relate to them – how to they “receive” this next, “heavier” perception of reality which is initially received and perceived as “in order to receive”.

        Anyone not working with these two states practically, precisely, “scientifically” even – cannot be considered as either a “righteous” or a “sinner” – they would just be “neutral”, a common component in the system acting exactly as designed from the first moment to the final moment. When this component wants to decide to be operated and operate and act for the good of the entire system by consciously working with the Creator’s force, that’s when they have the “responsibility”. Before you know you have the responsibility, you cannot be considered “responsible.”

         

    • #307945
      mrc s
      Participant

      Is the pleasures in our world nefesh de kedusha or it is the highest point in our world?

      • #307997

        Kabbalists write it as “a thin candle” – נר דקיק.

        The slightest illumination from the upper worlds, enough to sustain a person – a “starting” point. We start out in our bodies to do the work, without the “body” – the will to receive for oneself, there would not be an opposite intention to look for. We have to start out in concealment in order to move from concealment to revelation. First we have to feel the concealment.

    • #307944
      mrc s
      Participant

      If others are 3, 3 and me 2 then its 6, 2 right not 33,2 it’s more makes sense that way isn’t it?

    • #307847
      Tom
      Participant

      Hi Gil,

      I love watching your course on The Science of Human Emergence and I want to ask, shouldn’t we be focused on restructuring our educational system throughout the world to teach our children in an environment that maximizes their growth holistically?  Should we be teaching the next generation about the science of human emergence?

      Thanks,

      Tom Hughes.

      • #307998
        Gil
        Keymaster

        Hi Tom,

        Really glad to hear that you are enjoying the courses 🙂

        To answer your question – absolutely YES. Kids-teens-adults, we all need to learn about the process the entire universe is going through. Where we came from, where we are headed and why. Of course, the material always needs to be adapted to the audience, just like with any subject, but there is no doubt that everyone needs to learn about the potential we have as a human race.

    • #307822
      mrc s
      Participant

      About the burden of the kingdom of heaven, does the burden because of the labor or pain to give to others.?

      • #307995

        It’s only felt as “labor” to the ego – the will to receive for the self.

        “Servant of the Creator” is not “worker” or “employee”.

        Yet, like with the example of the Host and the guest, the intention to do good to one another is then common – they are in adhesion – and this is where the creature can finally use its will to receive, its desire to receive pleasure correctly and gain access to higher and higher levels of “acquiring” more of that force, becoming more and more similar to it. The ultimate fulfillment.

        The source texts from the Kabbalists, actually the entire engagement, the whole “study” is what the will to receive perceives, what it feels as a result of interacting with the light. So the only state you write about is the state of the will to receive, rather with an intention to bestow – at varying degrees. Therefore, words like “servant” and “labor” are correct but the “effort” is not in tolerating pain or suffering, rather the calculation itself is inverted and “pain” and “suffering” are in relation to not being able to do good to Him as He does to us – this is our worry and our concern. The words are words that are associated with phenomena within the will to receive, yes but described in relation to work in bestowal.

         

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