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    • #394427
      Verena
      Participant

      Hi, What is the definition of a Kabbalist (or sometomis it even says „true“ Kabbalist in the texts)? And how does it differ to  saying „and advanced student“ of Kabbalah? Sometimes tect speak of the one, and then the other… Thank you 🙂

      • #394869

        Hey Verena,

        In Kabbalistic teachings, a “Kabbalist” is someone who has attained a deep understanding and perception of the spiritual worlds. This involves not just intellectual knowledge but an experiential connection with the upper force. A “true Kabbalist” is often someone who has reached a level of spiritual attainment where they can guide others on their spiritual path. On the other hand, an “advanced student” of Kabbalah may have a significant understanding of the teachings and concepts but has not yet reached the level of spiritual perception and attainment that defines a Kabbalist. The distinction lies in the depth of spiritual experience and the ability to perceive and interact with the spiritual worlds. Not only this kind of superficial definition of a general “understanding” but a very precise and interactive partnership with the upper force–attaining the Creator’s “thought” and participating with Him in the process of correction for all of creation as a whole.

        Thanks!

    • #393560
      Nancy D
      Participant

      Is Kabbalah considered pantheistic or panentheistic?

      • #394868

        Hey Nancy,

        I guess the best answer is panentheistic since it’s not limited to this corporeal world. Meaning, that while the Creator is present in everything, the Creator also transcends the universe. In Kabbalistic thought, the Creator is the upper force that encompasses and permeates all of creation, yet remains beyond it.

        Hope that helps, thanks!

    • #393095
      Verena
      Participant

      Hi, I`ve been studying with KabU only for a few months, and first of all I just wanted to leave a big and  heartfelt „THANK YOU“ to all of the KABUTeam… KabU team, the way you lead us beginners through all this is really, really helpful, and it´ś such a great setup with all the different courses, the forums, the Q/A sessions… and all those Videos, they are really amazing … I am truly grateful for the chance to study Kabbalah this way, and I so much appreciate all the work you put in this. 🥰

      Now, in this forum I read a lot of very detailed questions, and quite a few of them were discussing the meaning of Torah, of some specific rituals, laws, commandments, … on the other hand, in the courses I learned that Kabbalah is exactly not about religion, that it´ś rather science, because it needs to be attained, observed and not believed in. When I started the courses, I was all intrigued by the scientific aspects of Kabbalah, maybe because I have some background there, and I really liked the idea of not having to believe but try,… anyways, now that I am progressing with the couses, I just dońt see the science yet. Please dońt get it wrong, I am totally happy with all that I learned… And for me, itś deeply spiritual, more than anything I have learned or practiced so far,… only I want to perceive it the right way. So, what I am trying to do is read it with an open mind, try to be unprejudiced, ready to be surpised by any revelation. In that, I am trying an empiric scientific approach. And I am getting, that once I get into a 10, the „lab“ might really be such, if the conditions to practice have determined factors, like in an experiment in a science lab.So, I am just seeking reassurance… well and the group, a teacher , and books of course…is that how it´ś meant? And is that all it needs? An open heart and an open mind? (Point in the heart included, for I am here…) After all,  I did not bother much about the religious impact yet, although I find the texts hard to understand as I dońt have any Jewish religious education, and the terminology reminds me so much of religion after all. Can I go on like that? Or will I just be disappointed then or getting to limits of understanding, if I dońt have that religious background ( I have a Christian background… but I never really took anything literally, and I am not into religion in terms of laws and dogmas, so I just cannot relate to it).

      Thanks a lot :-))

      • #393297

        Hey Verena,

        You’ll need to sharpen the definition of science a bit, especially since “research” does not generally involve the researcher and the observed as the same subject. We’re not used to poking around and looking for precise emotional states and working with that “matter” in order to look for certain anticipated changes. It’s hard for us to identify what states we’re in (especially at the beginning) and we don’t know what changes we should be expecting, what new inner “forms” do we acquire. It’s akin to being blind and feeling the walls around us with our hands as we walk forward. The Kabbalists tell us what “straight” on the path is and we, according to what our “hands feel” we can identify where we’re walking, what is happening to us, how to interpret each state, what we need to add or what “movement” do we need to make, where is “backwards” what is “forwards” etc. etc..

         

        It takes a while to get internally oriented and feel that you’re in a laboratory. First, you need to locate the laboratory, then you need to learn how to become that “scientist”. It’s all very vague at the beginning, no real, clear navigation ability. There’s an accumulative quality to the whole thing and over time some kind of picture will come into focus, but this depends on your consistency in efforts as well as your qualitative efforts and quantitative efforts. Everything counts. The main thing is to just continue and go forward to the best of your ability. It’s why cleaving to the texts are so important. They begin speaking to us and guiding us. You’ll hear and feel new things in them each time, according to your new state.

        Best of luck.

        Chris

    • #393093
      Verena
      Participant

      Hi, I`ve been studying with KabU only for a few months, and first of all I just wanted to leave a big and  heartfelt „THANK YOU“ to all of the KABUTeam… , the way you lead us beginners through all this is really, really helpful, and it´ś such a great setup with all the different courses, the forums, the Q/A sessions… and all those Videos, they are really amazing … I am truly grateful for the chance to study Kabbalah this way, and I so much appreciate all the work you put in this. 🥰

      Now, in this forum I read a lot of very detailed questions, and quite a few of them were discussing the meaning of Torah, of some specific rituals, laws, commandments, … on the other hand, in the courses I learned that Kabbalah is exactly not about religion, that it´ś rather science, because it needs to be attained, observed and not believed in. When I started the courses, I was all intrigued by the scientific aspects of Kabbalah, maybe because I have some background there, and I really liked the idea of not having to believe but try,… anyways, now that I am progressing with the courses, I just dońt see the science yet. Please dońt get it wrong, I am totally happy with all that I learned… And for me, itś deeply spiritual, more than anything I have learned or practiced so far,… only I want to perceive it the right way. So, what I am trying to do is read it with an open mind, try to be unprejudiced, ready to be surpised by any revelation. In that, I am trying an empiric scientific approach. And I am getting, that once I get into a 10, the „lab“ might really be such, if the conditions to practice have determined factors, like in an experiment in a science lab.So, I am just seeking reassurance… is that how it´ś meant? And is that all it needs? An open heart and an open mind? (Point in the heart included, for I am here…) After all,  I did not bother much about the religious impact yet, although I find the texts hard to understand as I dońt have any Jewish religious education, and the terminology reminds me so much of religion after all. Can I go on like that? Or will I just be disappointed then or getting to limits of understanding, if I dońt have that religious background ( I have a Christian background… but I never really took anything literally, and I am not into religion in terms of laws and dogmas, so I just cannot relate to it).

      Thanks a lot :-))

      • This reply was modified 1 week, 5 days ago by Verena.
    • #388860
      Scott
      Participant

      Greetings fam and peace onto you,

      Would a correct perception of this and the spiritual realm be that “nothing truly exists except the Creator?” as clearly stated by Rav in books etc. (eg. Attaining the Worlds Beyond)

      That and other parts of the study seem to suggest that we are just virtual parts, ignorant of the true divinity and infinite from which He made us. This makes perfect sense in my mind if this is how it’s all designed by the infinite Creator and it feels like explaining it in this way is making the end goal and current perceptions much more clear. I see that our study is clearly meant to break the egoistic shell that we’re born with and conditioned to stay in by our environment, but if we’re short-cutting and attempting to attain the mentioned view, is it accurate? I realize that it’s not easy to reach such a perception, but is it the end goal? I feel like if I accept it in that manner then I can more easily accept the challenges and pains of this realm and even accept that I don’t even have the ability to live outside of it, but I do have the ability to live in truth.

       

      Thanks and much love,

      Scott

      • #389616

        Hey Scott,

        Indeed. Although, just saying the words is an expression of our desire to attain such a reality but in our sensation we’re completely sealed off from that. In the mind it can make sense but the goal is feeling this and becoming a partner with Him in that reality where we know the rules and we work with Him in doing good to the created beings, working to bring forth the purpose of creation.

        It’s true the only way to move forward is to move toward the next level of human evolution by our own will, which is towards adopting the nature of the Creator. The view you want to attain will be a result  of the work you’ve done in trying to break out of the dominion of the ego. The goal and the result are slightly different. The goal is ultimately to do the Creator’s will without our ego getting in the way, going against the purpose of creation seemingly while a result of that work is attaining the upper thought, filled with the upper light that wants to do good–and not that our goal is to be filled with good (since by approaching this way it’s egoistic although any thought we have about the path is egoistic until we’re rewarded with the force of faith and therefore this is called Lo Lishma).

        The main thing is to just start….move in that direction. Have your thoughts always towards scrutinizing the goal and being awakened by the environment that influences us to think those thoughts. The path is a path of questions and answers, Kli and light. We awaken the desire and the upper one fills it. All of our “ideas” and understandings of concepts will evolve and change along the way, the main thing is to constantly sweat and move towards understanding how to work for the sake of others.

        Best of luck, Scott.

        Chris

        • #389624
          Scott
          Participant

          Amazing answer Chris and thanks for taking the time.

          I understand more clearly now that the current goal is to live according to the purpose of this human experience. And I think I need to disconnect my mind from the reality of what we are and from where we came and work within this clothing of flesh, but more importantly to work for those around me. In fact, I realize now that my question was of a selfish and egoistic nature. Very deep insight you shared.

          L’chaim

    • #387849
      Alexandra Toma
      Participant

      Hello there 🤗! I am a beginner, I’ve been studying Kabbalah for some weeks now and I would like to check if I am on the right track. Here is what I have understood so far:

      1. I cannot perceive the entire reality correctly because everything I perceive is filtered by my senses and interpreted by the ego in a way that serves my ego. So what I actually perceive through my senses are parts of me that have to be corrected.

      2. I have to receive and accept everything that is in my life with joy and with the intention to bestow to the Upper Force (feel appreciation)

      3. I have to connect with others with empathy and bestow to them ( offer them what I truly and unegoistically think they need) with the intention of understanding the Upper Force and feeling what it feels.

      I’ ve been trying to put this in practice already, so I would to understand if this is right or am I missing something. Thank you!

      • #387948

        Hey Alexandra,

        1. Yes! What you actually perceive is what the ego interprets for you–it’s all “in order to receive”.

        2. This is always the direction. A kind of “fake it till you make it” approach. That sounds superficial, but the same technique is used by children who want to grow. They just do it unconsciously and we do it consciously. With those efforts, we hope to awaken the developmental forces that will work on the place we’re making an effort to change–our intention.

        3. This is correct, however the ability to do so is completely up to the Creator. Our job is to cook up the desire for such a thing, to want this intention to govern us instead of our natural intention. Eventually we will arrive at what Kabbalists call a “prayer” which is a burning need within us. This is not something that words can compensate for, “the Creator hears the heart”, meaning, whatever is in our heart, this is what He listens to–and not our mouth. Once we have a true desire for that (something that can only be acquired through a spiritual environment that gradually works on us and brainwashes us into wanting this), we will have a real need for something that is so opposite to us but have no ability to attain it. This is what the Creator hears and will grant our request if it is the right request.

        Best of luck!

        Chris

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